Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #97 - June 10, 1996
Ben Folds Five Digest, Issue #97
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Topics for Today:
Alanis' opening act
Re: Memphis Show (BFF issue #96)
Covers? Those?
Buckle Up Mortals!
BF5: Australia?
cover songs (jellyfish)
RE: Bf5 in cincy
Cover tunes
Oy, such chutzpah!
Re: Ben Folds Five Digest, Issue #96
listees at shows
BF5 : List and chant ideas
damn over 21 shows
Obscure reference?
BF5 list name
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 01:04:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Fagan <john17cd@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Alanis' opening act
I heard that it was Imperial Drag opening for Alanis on her tour. Two
members from Imperial Drag used to be in Jellyfish.
John Fagan
john17cd@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 01:31:18 -0400
From: Bookaction@aol.com
Subject: Re: Memphis Show (BFF issue #96)
Well, being a Memphian and a concerned fan standing beside myself after
hearing of the cancellation, I called the New Daisy (where they were
scheduled to play). The guy on the other end of the phone said "one of the
guys is sick,". I asked and he said it would probably not be rescheduled.
And as I sit here, barely able to type or see the screen through the tears
in my eyes, I want you to know that the guy on the other end of the phone
seemed a little jerky, so he could be wrong. I write this with a great deal
of anger, frustration, and sadness. But it was expected. You see, the
Rentals also broke my heart in January by ducking out on Memphis. WHY ARE WE
BEING PUNISHED? C'mon... Jerry Lee was going to be there.
So there's the story, as far as I know.
All I'm saying is they better reschedule!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 01:15:10 -0500
From: Greg Monkey <monkey@inf.net>
Subject: Covers? Those?
Dear Sir who wrote the following stuff,
> OK here are some covers I'd love to see these guys do,
>
> Primus- Southbound Pachyderm (a lot of bass)
> The Verve Pipe- Photograph
> Smashing Pumpkins- 1979
> Anything by The Cure
> Candlebox- You
> OR
> Spacehog- In the Meantime (I'm partial to that cause I run their webpage)
Are you sure you're not just writing down your favorite songs? I can see
BF5 doing something by the cure, and I think that "1979" would be
interesting, but the rest of it? Uh...forgive me if I sound a bit snotty,
but give these things 20 years, and then everyone will realize how cheesy
these "modern rock" one hit wonders (Spacehog, Verve Pipe, Candlebox) are,
and then I think they would be mildly entertaining. As far as covers that
are recent songs, they do "Champagne Supernova", which is grandiose and
cheesy in the way that only Oasis can be, and a bit of "Killing in the Name
Of" by Rage Against the Machine...that's funny. Candlebox is just bad
taste. Let Candlebox make a mockery of themselves playing it. As far as
"Southbound Pachyderm" is concerned...I can't quite hear a piano part to
that. I wouldn't really want to hear BF5 do any of these songs. As far as
doing Matthew Sweet...it'd be cool if they did a swingier version of
"Girlfriend", but I think "I've Been Waiting" would be great to hear, with
the harmonies, or "Time Capsule". Any Matthew Sweet is a pop gem, and
hearing Ben Folds and crew do a cover would be sheer pop bliss. I say they
should do the "Theme From Shaft". That'd be cool...hearing Ben Folds
suavely say "Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine to all the
chicks" and Robert and Darren, in their falsetto harmony, singing "SHAFT!"
in the background. That's beautiful, folks.
> I'm de-lurking for a few moments to ask who the song "Hava Nagila" is by.
> A few people mentioned that the guys were covering it at the last few shows
> and I got kind of curious. Thanks.
>
It's an old Jewish (I think) traditional song.
Greg
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:50:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Martin <un036034@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Subject: Buckle Up Mortals!
I love Sara's (Hotdoglove@aol.com) suggestion for the chant...Buckle Up
Mortals! It has nothing to do with BF5 per se, other than you probably
need to buckle up for their live show, matey. Ah whatever...I'm prepared
to be based. Once again I'm out from Charleston WV...
Jason
"It's 4 in the morning, mother don't know that I'm going far away..."
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:54:42 +0000
From: Damian Child <dchild@lochard.com.au>
Subject: BF5: Australia?
Hi, I'm new so excuse me if I sound like a dick. Anyway,
any plans for BF5 to come to Australia? We don't know
anything about them here so any info would be gratefully
received.
It's funny that someone (was it Kym?) said they'd like to
hear BF5 do a cover of Jellyfish or Redd Kross - they're two
of my very favourite bands - although superseded at this
point in time by Ben Folds Five.
Oh well, whatever.
Damian.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 02:47:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charlie Bucket <drteeth@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: cover songs (jellyfish)
Kymberley@aol.com wrote:
>
> as for my choice for a cover i think maybe i would like to hear a jellyfish
> or redd kross song. i havent decided which songs yet..i'll ponder it some
> more
>
Well, I wasn't going to add to the "cover songs" thread, since I
haven't had a chance to see BFF live yet, but I couldn't resist upons
seeing this. Another Jellyfish fan? I think we qualify as a "rare
species," at least in my experience...
Anyway, I would love to hear BFF do any of these jellyfish songs:
baby's coming back, joining a fan club, or he's my best friend. So what
do you think, Kym?
Glad to see this mailing list. Now maybe I'll be able to find out
dates for some shows the next time they swing through California.
Kelly
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:37:58 -0400
From: Benjamin M Gramig <gramfam@thepoint.net>
Subject: RE: Bf5 in cincy
> From: Freakboy69@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Ben Folds Five Digest, Issue #95
> I really want to see BFF in Cincy but I don't know how to get to the club
> they're playing in. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
i'm trying to find a way to go myself, and all i can find is the address
in cincy: 1120 Walnut St.
not too entirely helpful, but it's something!!
where are you driving from??
yours forever in music,
BMG
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:51:32 -0500 (EST)
From: AGNEND86@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU
Subject: Cover tunes
I'm surprised none of have suggested that BF5 cover piano based tunes.
Sure, straight covers may not ne that exciting, but I think it would be
great if they covered "The Last" by the Replacements. It's the last cut
on their final album, All Shook Down. If you have access to this album
listen to it, and you'll see why this song would be such an appropriate
cover. "Good Day" off of the new Paul Westerberg album would also be a
good choice. (Yes, I am being paid to endorse Repelacements/Westerberg
covers). I'm also surprised to see that no one has suggested Tori Amos,
Billy Joel, or Harry Conick Jr. covers... not that I'd like to see BF5
cover their songs, but they ARE the obvious artists for them to cover,
wouldn't ya say?
NA
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: "DAVID A. MEYERSON" <davidmey@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:40:24 -0400
> From: Seaforest@aol.com
> Subject: Hava Nagila?
>
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I'm de-lurking for a few moments to ask who the song "Hava Nagila" is by.
> A few people mentioned that the guys were covering it at the last few shows
> and I got kind of curious. Thanks.
Hava Nagila isn't really by anybody. it's a traditional Jewish folk type
song in which the lyrics are in Hebrew. it's usually sung at most happy
religious celebrations (Bar/Bat Mitzvah's, Weddings, certain joyous holidays)
it's very old and i doubt i can even find out who's it by. if you're
really that curios after my little speech, then e-mail me and i might
even be able to get a translation for you. if you're also wondering it's
probably done as a joke, because most popular bands wouldn't cover
traditional Jewish folk songs.
and now you know. and knowing is half the battle.
may the force be with you
daniel
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:56:43 CDT
From: binky@clubhouse.email.net
Subject: Oy, such chutzpah!
Hava Nagila is an old traditional Hebrew tune that's been around for
centuries. (Actually, the best cover of *that* one I've heard was by Herman
the German and Das Cowboy, a local Austin band. An instrumental surf polka
cover of a traditional Jewish folk song played by a guy in leather chaps and
a Keiser helmet. Be still my heart...)
As for the person who asked whether or not I'd seen BF5 do any covers, yes, I
have. My point is, covers are the bane of good songwriters. I've seen bands
with perfectly good songwriters (The Beat Farmers, Dash Rip Rock, and Javelin Boot
to name just a few) who have become better known for funny covers than for
their great originals. It just seems a waste of time to worry about whether
or not a great pop (it's not a dirty word, dammit!) band should be doing a
straightforward pop song by another great pop songwriter (Matthew Sweet
being the example). It's just redundant! Fun is fun, but I would hate to see
BF5 become just another novelty act or cover band. Down with covers!
--For Those About To Pop, We Salute You!
(Javelin Boot)
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:39:25 -0400
From: KTUCKER3@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ben Folds Five Digest, Issue #96
Does anybody know dates of BF5's tour?? My web stuff is down, so I
can't get to the site. I was just recently at a BNL concert (last Weds in
Chicago), and they played "Philosophy"--I was jumping up and down. My
friends looked at me like I was crazy, but I just kept singing and having a
great time!
Someone was talking about BF5's bootlegs, and I would love to get one if
someone was nice enough to tape one for me. I have lots of other boots and
would be more than willing to trade. Just email me if you want to trade.
tucker
KTUCKER3@AOL.COM
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:43:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jenn Halter <jlh4935@email.unc.edu>
Subject: listees at shows
We had a similar dilema on the +Live+ mailing list about how people could
recognize other "SOYers" (Straight Outta York is the list name) at
shows. Someone suggested we bring bananas and hold 'em high, an idea I
didn't particularly go for. But at a show I went to in Great Woods Mass,
there were 3 or 4 there with their bananas.
Eventually we got shirts made with permission from +Live+ to use their
logo and a quote from "White, Discussion." The email address and web
site are on the back along with the quote. They are very nice looking
and I am sure at least 30% of the over 2000 people on the list have one now.
As this list grows, I am sure some ambitious BF5er would like to take on
that project- I myself have not an iota of time.
Good luck to anyone who wants to take the project on!
jenn Ihay Annonshay!
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:57:21 -0400
From: Andrea Merrifield <hapfield@commdesign.com>
Subject: BF5 : List and chant ideas
hi gize ,
just a few ideas :
chants,
"Hello , iz anyone out there on the BF5 digest mailing list?" (i like it)
"look at me , i'm on fire"
"i am cheese boy"
"you're fired"
"who wants some pot?"
"let go of my back-hairs"
"i want some cheap booze"
"you can call me bubba"
"bananas are my friends"
"Don't eat that!~!"
list names ,
"You'll rot in hell if you don't read this"
"Stop the bus!"
"The BF5 digest" (i'm so imaginative)
just a few thoughts,
SPOT
P.S. "If everything is nothing than are we anything? It's better to be
better than to be anything"----Counting Crows
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:17:39 -0400
From: "John W. Fail" <fail@llama.com>
Subject: damn over 21 shows
Well, I won't be attending the show next Thursday due to the stupid
drinking laws in this country. It's over 21 only, and I'm unfortunately
a mere 16. Of course, they serve booze at all ages shows anyway ...
-john
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:43:25 -0500 (EST)
From: borcheva@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Subject: Obscure reference?
hi! This is officially my first post!
I'm set to go to a BF5 concert tomorrow night, and I can't wait. All
the reviews here have been great!
I like the idea of using something other than a chant to identify
ourselves: something we could wear, perhaps?
Anyway, completely off the topic... Frank, could the "TV's Frank" be a
reference to the television show, Mystery Science Theater 3000? Just
curious.
-Vicky
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**Vicky**
MSTie #37366
email me@: borcheva@miavx1.muohio.edu
CommSign@aol.com
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[Vicky: I'm not a registered MST3K fan, though I do know who Tom Servo
is, if that counts, so I'm not sure whether "TV's Frank" came from the
show or not. But since I work in TV and my name is Frank, it's
appropriate in either case. -fjm]
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:06:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Clapper <clapper@harborcom.net>
Subject: BF5 list name
i think the name should be some clever
(not so clever?) play on words
Ben Folds Files
The BF5 Bends and Folds
or maybe...
Ben FRANKlin's (something or other)
"I should be allowed to glue my poster; I should be allowed to think."
-TMBG
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