THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #156 - November 1, 1996
THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #156
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Topics for Today:
Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #154
UK fans
Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #155
BF5 & Fleming & John & Stuff
Bootleg tracklistings
stinking bootlegs...
Live at the Leadmill.
bf5 vs bf3
Boxing's Been Good To Me Howard
new cd?
Re: Boxing Day (totally off topic)
Uncle Walter
Joel/John comment
Uncle Walter in Australia
a couple of things.`
BFF Brits
Track list for the new album and other recording news
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:25:53 -0500 (EST)
From: "Donna L. Hokanson" <hokansod@goldey.gbc.edu>
Subject: Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #154
> From: cobrwn@swannet.com.au
>
> I was told they sounded like Todd [Rundgren] and went out and purchased
> their album.
> ...
> Anyone agree with me?
I agree. My friend says no but I definitely think some of his material
sounds like Todd Rundgren some. the voice on some tracks and the piano.
Someone else said Joe jackson and that is who my friend agreed with. But
I still think they sound similar to Todd.
Donna
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:21:22 +0000
From: Nev Jopson <nev@foresight.co.uk>
Subject: UK fans
In response to your query (MA155).... yes there are one or two of us,
including Fruitbat from Carter U.S.M. - whose "Bad Moon" Web pages have all
the Caroline Records links (amongst a million others)... check the site out
at:
http://www.bad-moon.demon.co.uk/ (see also http://www.dircon.co.uk/carter/)
Nev
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:42:27 -0500
From: JonRucker@aol.com
Subject: Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #155
Another side note on Jump, Little Children...
The members of JLC are from the same hometown as Ben Folds. In fact, two of
them even went to the same high school as Ben (although a few years later).
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:44:15 -0500
From: Ed Crabtree <ecrab@ga.unc.edu>
Subject: BF5 & Fleming & John & Stuff
Just wanted to clarify, correct, or whatever the comments on Ben and
Fleming & John.
Yes, Fleming & John, as mentioned on Ben's album, are in fact the same band
with the current single "Love Songs." "Love Songs" is doing really well on
Atlanta's 99X as well as other stations throughout the country and is their
second single--"I'm Not Afraid" was their first.
Ben calls them "The Carpenters of the 90's with Led Zepplin's rythm
section." I think it was the _Alternative Press_ who called them "pure pop
gorgeousness." And _Electronic Musician_ says they have a "'Kate Bush
fronting Led Zepplin' sonic assault."
F&J didn't play on the first BF5 record. However, John Painter (John of
F&J) recently told me that Ben is doing some recording in the F&J home
studio--IHOF (International House of Fleming). If there are any strings on
this one, John will likely arrange them...
As for playing Atlanta. They play there regularly. I saw them there back
in August at the Cotton Club. They are playing there Halloween Night
opening for Crash Test Dummies. Check 'em out if you're in Atlanta.
(Their holiday shows usually have special surprise covers... and they're
known for their covers of "I Got You, Babe" to the tune of "Black Dog" and
"Sunshine on my Shoulders" to the tune of "Ramble On.")
BTW, Fleming has one m.
OBBF5: I discovered BF5 when they were closing for F&J at a gig in
Greensboro, NC. Odd that a band from Nashville would introduce me to a
band from the town I've lived in for the past 9 years...
Ed Rock Crabtree
ecrab@ga.unc.edu
http://ias.ga.unc.edu/~ecrab
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 15:41:07 0000
From: Mark Piper <pipermf@phymat.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Bootleg tracklistings
Hi,
Does anybody please have tracklistings for the following shows:
Chapel Hill 6/95
Ziggy's, Winston-Salem 8/95
Tokyo (There may be more than one. Any ideas???)
Also, can anyone supply rough/exact dates for:
Seventh House, Pontiac, MI
Nashville, TN
Tokyo (as mentioned above)
Chapel Hill 6/95
Ziggy's 8/95
Thanks
Mark
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[Dates for shows back to January 1996 are on the web pages. I don't
have anything prior to that. fjm]
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:12:35 -0600
From: Geoff McNulty <gmcnulty@students.wisc.edu>
Subject: stinking bootlegs...
To all of you who post that they have bootlegs to trade:
When somone emails you about bootlegs, email them back. Otherwise, your
quest for trading bootlegs is pointless. I don't know how many times I've
emailed people who have BF5 boots, and never hear from them. So for the
final time IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BF5 BOOTLEGS, EMAIL ME. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO
TRADE WHAT I HAVE.
Thank you,
glee
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 16:37:46 PST
From: Derek Ebbrell <dse@postman.sabwabco.co.uk>
Reply to: derek.ebbrell@sabwabco.co.uk
Subject: Live at the Leadmill.
Well I have herd that much about bootleging
that I thought I might actually go and enjoy my self at a concert
and not stand at the back with a microphone and a tape recorder.
No matter how expensive they are.
I plan to be the big hairy one at the front in the Leadmill (Sheffield)
See you there with out your tape recorders
Derek Ebbrell
derek.ebbrell@sabwabco.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:46:06 +0900
From: shinya iguchi <s-iguchi@ka2.so-net.or.jp>
hi. I'm a musician living and working in Japan. If there are any
any BFF or Jellyfish fans living close by I'd like to hear from you.
thank you.
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:06:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Spy Swatter <mb19202@conrad.appstate.edu>
Subject: bf5 vs bf3
"I know this is a stupid question and I'm sure its been asked a million times
before but I only recently joined. Can someone PLEASE tell me why its
BF5 and not BF3?"
does there have to be a reason?? :)
........................................Matt
"If I could change the future, I would change the past instead"
--Danny
Elfman
E-mail: mb19202@appstate.edu
http://www.runet.edu/~hbarton
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:11:15 -0500
From: Pat_Meusel@Sonymusic.Com
Subject: Boxing's Been Good To Me Howard
Howie Stuart sez:
Sorry to disapoint you, but I think you may be wrong. I have heard Ben
confirm in an interview that the song was inspired by Mohammed Ali and
Howard Cosell. In fact, if you listen to the lyrics, it is clear that
the song is sung from Ali's point of view to Cosell.
I sez:
Finally someone gets it right!
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:27:31 -0500
From: Tocadisco@aol.com
Subject: new cd?
<< Inside info - Sony is recording BFF live in London in the 3rd week of
November (forget the exact date). Earlier live recorded tracks (in the US)
had to be scrapped because the quality of the performance was not up to
par.
This is intended to be a major label record release.
>>
Are they releasing a live cd in addition to the new one or is the new one
going to be recorded live?
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:42:07 +0000
From: Damian Child <dchild@lochard.com.au>
Subject: Re: Boxing Day (totally off topic)
Boxing Day is the day after Christmas when you give gifts
to people such as the Milkman and the Postman - not when
you return gifts you don't like (how rude!)
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:32:27 -0600
From: DAN FRANKE <deerlick@execpc.com>
Subject: Uncle Walter
> My grandfather's name is Walter and he's kind of like Uncle Walter in the
> Ben Folds Five song.
> Cool huh?
> Julianne
I'll sing a song, but it won't be the blues.
... hey Julianne, does Ben know you or your "grandpa" Walter?
"The music that you listen to is the soundtrack for your life"
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:13:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Marc <mjt7742@is2.nyu.edu>
Subject: Joel/John comment
Somebody said that Billy Joel and Elton John made the piano unpopular.
Are we listening to the same Billy Joel? I don't care so much for
Elton, but I grew up on Billy, AND love BFF as well. I guess that's what
makes the world go round.
Has the writer of this article heard great tunes like "Zanzibar" and
"Stiletto?" Billy Joel practically kept the pop piano alive through the
eighties. I won't mention his later years, but I have always admired his
compositions.
Did anybody else become a little pissed at that last post? Or has
everybody turned their backs on Billy Joel.
-Marc
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:19:17 +1100
From: Earthy Rock <custer@ros.com.au>
Subject: Uncle Walter in Australia
My suspicions were correct people. I am now the proud owner of the
Australian version of Uncle Walter. Tom & Mary and Emaline (live) are also
on the CD. BUY IT!
Ad.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:55:19 -0500
From: PhairTwo@aol.com
Subject: a couple of things.`
first of all, i'm the one nick 'reunited with' and i'm not his mother, but it
was actually very cool that we found each other. i now e-mail him every day
(hang in there buddy). anyway, second of all. i have loved boxing ever since
i first heard it. it is......awesome. there are no words to describe what it
feels like to listen to it, though the rem 'nightswimming' experience comes
close. i'm 17 years old, never seen ali and cossell together, and the song
still gives me goosebumps. it's like good poetry, everyone relates. and last.
my frickin' cd is starting to skip. only on songs 8-11 though. so i still get
boxing. thank god for small things. au revoir to you all. live on in the
peace of ben folds five.
-bess
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:28:00 GMT
From: greg hills <gkhills@pine.shu.ac.uk>
Subject: BFF Brits
I'm responding to Matt Bloom's battle cry to all British BFF
fans. I'm a big fan and am slowly but surely spreading the
gospel to all my friends.
I'm going to their gig at the Leadmill in Sheffield on the
23rd of November so I hope to see some of you there.
GREG.
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[First information is coming in from Sony on the new album. Pat Meusel
has sent along the tentative track list:
BRICK (Folds/Jessee)
SONG FOR THE DUMPED (Folds/Jessee)
ALL IS FAIR (Folds)
SMOKE (Folds/Goodman)
KATE (Folds/Jessee/Goodman)
STEVEN'S LAST NIGHT IN TOWN (Folds)
SELFLESS, COLD AND COMPOSED (Folds)
BATTLE OF WHO COULD CARE LESS (Folds)
ONE ANGRY DWARF AND 200 SOLEMN FACES (Folds)
EVAPORATED (Folds)
MISSING THE WAR (Folds)
CIGARETTE (Folds/?)
Pat also says that Ben was in the studio at Sony about three weeks ago
doing tape transfers. They recorded at Ben's house, as was discussed on
the Armchair previously, using a couple of DA-88 machines and a bunch of
vintage mics and audio gear, and they were transferring it to 48 track
digital for mastering. So it looks like the recording is done and it's
all sweetening from here! -fjm]
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