THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR

The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #206 - March 24, 1997



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Topics for Today:
 
      Life is good
      Re: Whatever and ever...t-shirt!
      sugar water and for children....
      Whatever and Ever Amen
      cd singles from 1st album
      Canadian release date
      A Few Thoughts on...Whatever
      THE WAIT IS OVER in Windsor, Ontario !
      Re: crappy jax
      Let me Correct Myself
      BF5 on Dutch radio
      Whatever review
      Ben Folds Five: Whatever... and Airplay
      Re: Vince Guaraldi
      Hidden track
      RE: BF5 & Klezmatics
      Astoria
      First BFF Concert
      a sure hit?
 
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 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:11:47 -0700
 From: Shawn Huckaby <BShawn@ix.netcom.com>
 Subject: Life is good

 First, the new CD this week,

 and now,  I've got tickets to go see the Five in Denver in three weeks!

 Life is good.

 Shawn Huckaby

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 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:15:21 -0500 (EST)
 From: Jennifer Delamar <47km67nb@abaco.coastalnet.com>
 Subject: Re: Whatever and ever...t-shirt!

 Alright, friends....

 I want a t-shirt!  no, not a black one, necessarily, but one, nonetheless!
 I was lucky enough to get a friend to tape Whatever and Ever Amen, but I was
 not entitled to a t-shirt, so please tell me how I might get one.

 Bry, thanks for the mail.  Love ya!

 check you guys with funny packages later,

 Jennifer
 aka Karaoke queen

 47km67nb@coastalnet.com

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:09:07, -0500
 From: MS KIMBERLY HORN <QPQJ32A@prodigy.com>
 Subject: sugar water and for children....

 aloha!!!
 okay, we all know the hype in japan is huge for ben folds five....
 and i live in the closest us state to japan...
 most obviously hawaii....so i get a lot of the japanese influence
 living here.
 anyway, who else loves japanese music?...
 not necessarily japanese music but japanese bands.....
 cibo matto...pizzicatto 5.....towa tei...just to name a few.
 could people out there help me?
 mahalo nui loa!!!!
 seferina lozano

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:12:15 -0500
 From: Fred Antonangeli <fantonan@bcn.net>
 Subject: Whatever and Ever Amen

 Well folks, it's been about four days since I've purchased the new cd
 and it has yet to leave my cd player. I think my family may be seriously
 considering stealing it and hiding it on me, and my friends think I
 should go talk to someone. I was just wondering if anyone here was going
 to the show in NYC? I imagine that quite a few people are, just thought
 I'd ask. Also, is anyone from Mass. travelling to NYC to see them? I am,
 and just thought I'd inquire. And...for the person in the one of the
 last digests about the phone ringing, the first day I had the cd I must
 have paused the cd like five times to go "get the phone" before I
 finally realized what it was. Actually, yesterday I was listening to it
 in the living room and my mom thought it was the phone too, boy did I
 get a good laugh out of that.

 Sarah :)

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:43:17 -0500 (EST)
 From: Alexander Jay Timin <ajtimin@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
 Subject: cd singles from 1st album

 I haven't been able to find any of the singles from BFF's 1st album.  If
 anyone knows where i might get them, please email me off the list at

 ajtimin@freenet.tlh.fl.us

 alex

 (ps - I also have a few tapes of BFF in concert)

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:24:51 -0400
 From: Daniel MacEachern <dmaceach@is2.dal.ca>
 Subject: Canadian release date

 to the Haligonian out of water:

 I couldn't get the album here either. I know it was supposed to be released
 on the 18th, I'd seen signs at Sam's, but I guess it got pushed back a
 week.
 How annoying. The problem is, the album comes out now two days before my
 thesis is due, so I know I'll get no work done. I have to have my thesis
 done before Tuesday.

 Daniel
 Halifax
 A Haligonian IN water

     [It really DID sink into the bay??? -fjm]

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:52:13 -0600
 From: jbuff@uit.net
 Subject: A Few Thoughts on...Whatever

 Where'd the guitar come from, and who's playing it?

 I like the album alot.

 It's a little different from the first one though, which is fine.  It
 sounds a little more produced, which isn't necessarily good.  There's
 alot of effects and other instruments in the album.  Again, it sounds
 good, but I the thing I really liked about the first album is that it
 was simple, yet powerful.  Just the piano, bass, and drums...that's it.
 It sounded the same live as it did on the album.  Just like they
 probably walked into the studio, jammed for a day, and then put it out.
 This one wasn't recorded live.  At least it doesn't sound like it could
 be, and that kindof sucks. Oh well.

 It really is a great album though.

 It's slower and prettier.  That's not a good or bad thing.  It's just
 the way it is.

 Can you tell I didn't put any thought into this?  It's just some random
 thoughts.  I'm actually listening to it right now.  I'm grooving.

 Take Care
 Brett

 	"Hike up your skirt a little more, and show your world to me."
 				--Dave Matthews Band (1996)

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:53:23 -0500 (EST)
 From: My dog rocks! <tucker5@server.uwindsor.ca>
 Subject: THE WAIT IS OVER in Windsor, Ontario !

 My gosh!  My silly town had trouble getting the new album on the 18th!
 I couldn't believe it!  What's worse is that I work at one of the
 record stores here and for the past few days, I've been constantly running
 in  back room hoping to see a nice box marked "SONY".  I think I've driven
 my co-workers absolutely nuts!  Even tried getting the promo early
 but no luck! However, today, another records store in
 Windsor got the album in so I bought it there! I was finally blessed
 with the gem-like sounds of "Whatever and Ever Amen"!  What JOY I tell you!

 so ya,....WOW...what brilliance!!  Lots of ballads...VERY nice stuff!  AND
 I find out earlier this week that I can FINALLY see them in concert in
 DETROIT!.  The world is now a better place!

 ***congrats to FRANK MAYNARD who was thanked in the album notes...I made
 sure to check for that!***

 side note:  Am still trying to tackle the original piano score to Philosophy
 (ouch!..its tough I tell you...should master it by 1998 I hope!)

 Has anyone out there purchased the new Ben Folds Piano Score book??? How
 is it?????  I imagine it's worth the insane import price right?

 	* LiNdA *

 Linda Tucker
 tucker5@uwindsor.ca
 University of Windsor
 2nd yr - Communications Stud.

 ---->>HELLO to Shannon McCarthy (you rock!) and Dean Drouillard (my next
       stop is the RACECAR web page!)

 	"What means the most takes the most to realize"
 					-The Grapes of Wrath

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:28:00 -0500 (EST)
 From: Superdork9@aol.com
 Subject: Re: crappy jax

 bad news in my town cant find new  bf5 cd good news my radio station wwas
 giving thenm away all day today and guess what i called in and won
 yeah!!!!!!!!!!  so they  will mail me my cd  and it will be here soon cant
 wait till i hear it

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 01:16:42 -0600
 From: jbuff@uit.net
 Subject: Let me Correct Myself

 I know there's no guitar in the new album.  It's just the bass played
 high and distorted.  It's a cool effect.  The reason I thought there
 might be is because there are times when you can hear it, and a bass
 line.  This is why I think the band did some over sampling, along with
 Ben singing over himself.  Again, it all works, and I dig it.

 Brick is an amazing song.  I'm going to ask a dumb question here, but is
 that a tuba I hear?  If not, the bass is being run through a funky
 gizmo.

 Okay , that's it.

 Take Care
 Brett

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 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:10:59 +0100 (MET)
 From: parreira@aquawolf.xs4all.nl
 Subject: BF5 on Dutch radio

 The Amsterdam show from 3/18 will be broadcasted partly (a half hour of
 highlights) this wednesday, 3/26 somewhere between 22.00 and 24.00 in
 VPRO Villa65's Einfach Rockmusik.

 Maybe the whole concert will be broadcasted in the summer...

 Bye,
 Daniel

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:11:42 -0500 (EST)
 From: John Fagan <john17cd@bc.seflin.org>
 Subject: Whatever review

      I just recently came back from London and was excited to hear Bff
 for the very first time ever on the radio.  Heard BOWCCL on the radio...I
 was thrilled.  Also saw the video too on London's VH1.  This was the
 first time I ever saw a BFF video.

      With all the hype thru this mailing list I was highly anticipating
 the new album .  I got it on wed at Circuit city for 10.99.

      I agree with previous posts it is an album that grows on you with
 each listen.  Its definitely a more mellower album than the first
 hook-filled uptempo first album.  On first listen I like Fair, Brick and
 BOWCCL.  Fair is pretty good . I like the verses...The Ba ba ba / Doobie
 Brothers sounding chorus gets to be a little annoying.  Who is singing
 the verses on Brick??? Is it ben ?
      I do like the new version of song for the dumped...has a more "live"
 sound.  Also I wasnt crazy about Stevens Last nite but now its my new
 favorite.  Thru the album I can still hear touches of Todd Rundgren and
 Joe Jackson. Also Jellyfish, America, Doobie Brothers and Billy Joel.

     I think this album is more personal from a songwriting point of
 view.  This is a good album tho I still prefer the first.

     Id pick Brick or Fair as the next possible single choices.


     When is BEN coming to Florida ?? Hopefully in May after his atlanta gigs.
 Any other Fort Lauderdale/Miami BFF fans....email me.

 John Fagan
 john17cd@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:23:15 -0500 (EST)
 From: Shawn Patrick Mummert <mummersp@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
 Subject: Ben Folds Five: Whatever... and Airplay

 Hey, folks--

 Yes, like everyone else I have the new album. In fact, they've been
 playing "Battle of Who Could Care Less" for several weeks here in Southern
 Ohio. In fact, the song is #1 on our local college radio station.  All I
 can say is that it's about time, since the DJs around here are always
 talking about how great the band is, but never playing anything. For
 example, when Better than Ezra came to town, during the interview on the
 radio, they said that they were listening to the Ben Folds Five album a
 lot. The DJ said, yeah, those guys are great. (Then why don't you play
 something from them, if they're so great? Commercial radio for you.)

 Also, it seems as though the band's getting more coverage, including that
 very nice Details article (the one with Gwen Stefani on the cover). They
 get a whole two pages, which I thought was prett cool. Obviously, the
 writer likes the band.

 So, anyway, the word on the band is getting out.

 mummersp@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:23:59 -0500
 From: Paul Rodriguez <mppr@ix.netcom.com>
 Subject: Re: Vince Guaraldi

 This is bizarre.  Bruce Herrier wrote in TMA #203 about the similarity
 between Ben's playing on "Selfless, Cold and Composed" and Vince Guaraldi.
 This comparison came to my mind as soon as I heard the track.

 For those of you unfamiliar with the late jazz pianist, he is indeed best
 known for the albums _A Charlie Brown Christmas_ and _A Boy Named Charlie
 Brown_.  However, his Top Forty single of 1963, "Cast Your Fate to the
 Wind," also is quite BFF-ish in its melancholy tone.  Like Ramsey Lewis,
 Guaraldi's jazz was quite pop in tone, with great attention to the lyric
 line.

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:31:06 -0500
 From: Paul Rodriguez <mppr@ix.netcom.com>
 Subject: Hidden track

 No one's mentioned it yet, but I assume most of you have heard the hidden
 track on the U.S. release of _Whatever and Ever Amen_.  If not, it comes in
 at 5:28 on track 12.  Does anyone know who the speaker is?

 If overseas buyers don't have it, it goes like this:

 The track is live in a club.  The speaker says, "Look, man, I got your
 hidden track right here, pal.  Right here.  Listen.  Ben Folds is a f***in'
 asshole."  The crowd cheers.

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:51:14 -0500
 From: Paul Rodriguez <mppr@ix.netcom.com>
 Subject: RE: BF5 & Klezmatics

 Someone asked about the Klezmatics (three members of the group appear on
 "Steven's Last Night in Town.").  The group plays a contemporary version of
 klezmer, a traditional Jewish musical genre.  Their albums include _Rhythm
 & Jews_ and _Jews With Horns_.  Trumpeter Frank London has also guested on
 three They Might Be Giants albums: _Flood_, _Apollo 18_ and _John Henry_.

 I think their addition gives the song a real swing band sound.  I like it!

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:56:07 -0000
 From: Baldwin M <M.Baldwin@rhbnc.ac.uk>
 Subject: Astoria

 What was going on at the Astoria gig, how come all those guys were
 getting on the stage?
 Hilarious Shampoo piss take to sound of Prince`s sexy MF was ace
 Were you there?
 Wanna chat about it?
 M.Baldwin@rhbnc.ac.uk

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:35:53 -0500 (EST)
 From: YerArsenal@aol.com
 Subject: First BFF Concert

 Hello,
 This is my first post.  I have been on the list for sometime, but for some
 reason have not posted up until now.  I am FINALLY going to see BFF live this
 Friday Night (28th).  They are playing at the Cat's Cradle and i am just numb
 with excitement.  I will try to let everyone know how the show was......
 I also wanted to respond to the person who was wondering if any people on the
 list live in NC.  I actually live in Rocky Mount, but I work in Zebulon and
 visit Raleigh often.  Maybe we will bump into each other at the show.

 See Ya
 YerArsenal

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 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 22:54:20 -0600
 From: nancy <ndoodle@ou.edu>
 Subject: a sure hit?

 well, since listening to it not all that all the way, I've already decided
 that this new album isn't really as great as teh first album. Well, not to
 say that it isn't good, but my over all view of it is that 1.) the slow
 songs are boring, 2.) quality seems too smoothed over, 3.) it didn't quite
 catch on so well and quickly as the first album (ie, I was sold on the first
 30 seconds of jackson cannery!), 4.) you all are going to shoot me for being
 so fast to put whatever down! Sorry, kids, the magic just didn't strike me
 this time. Well, I'll be excited to see those kids though.

 Tell me, do any of you guys know if we'll be lucky to see bf5 WITH komeda
 down here in sunny texas?! (and I'll tell you, it's DAMN sunny! I'm
 sunburned! ack!) cos', like well, I've taken to them komeda folk and would
 love to see them. Well, I'll go and look em up on pollstar er sumfin.

 oh yeah, the point of this email...
 I predict Whatever and ever amen to become an atleast one time hit much in
 the same line as cracker with their single-Low, because of the weed
 reference. anyone on the same brain wave here? well, if you will, everysong
 from a low key band that I've ever liked that has made it big with their one
 hit single coincidentally made a pot reference in their lyrics! This can
 almost be proved with Battle, since well, I've heard it on the radio (never
 a bf5 hath reached this medium in my dallas world) and the video's been
 getting middle of the day airplay even! ack! well, atleast bf5 will be
 getting just due stardom, but, egh?!

 ah, well, just a thought. later, kids

 lobster red yours,
 nancy doodle! :P

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