THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR

The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #224 - April 10, 1997



                     THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #224
 
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Topics for Today:
 
      Ben Folds Music Folio
      more Last Polka
      Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #219
      Ben Folds Promo
      Tempe, AZ show
      Jonesin' for a Video
      Alt. Lyrics & other blah blah blah ginger
      "Keep that sheet safe"?
      quirky lyrics?
      BF5 Tour Date
      real fans and Identification
      Salt Lake Review
      Lawrence, KS show...April 21
      Tapes
      I bought BBF dinner at Denny's!
 
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 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 11:16:07 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Bnanakingg@aol.com
 Subject: Ben Folds Music Folio

 Hi,

 I'm desperately seeking this music folio.  I was going to order it before I
 went out of town for a week, but I forgot and now that I'm back, it's been
 discontinued.  Well, I was just wondering if any of you out there have this
 and would be willing to part with it or would be able to get it from
 somewhere, and I'll be willing to pay $$$.  Please help a poor kid out.
  THANKS!

 Over,
 Bryce

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 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:15:26 -0500
 From: Howie Stuart <stuart@optics.rochester.edu>
 Subject: more Last Polka

  "Yellosno" wrote:
 >
 > "p.s. does anyone else think that the most powerful part of the first cd is
 >  during 'the last polka' when ben belts out 'but baby i was doing fine how
 >  do you think that i survived the other 25 before you?'"

 Actually, "Last Polka" is probably my least favorite song on the first
 record.  For me, the most powerful moment comes in "Philosophy" with the
 line 'so you can laugh all you wa-ant too-oo' and the drum/piano buildup
 that follows it.  In a close second place would be the bridge of Boxing
 ('sometimes I punch myself hard as I can'), at which point my goose bumps
 have risen 3 inches off my skin.  I must not like "Last Polka" because it
 comes just before "Boxing" and I'm so eager with anticipation.

 For those of you who receive The Box (it's a video jukebox thing available
 in some local TV markets, for those of you who don't), the BOWCCL video
 is now available, and it is definitely worth the $2.50 - especially if
 you tape it!

 Will BFF ever come to Rochester, NY?

 Howie

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 Date: 08 Apr 97 14:35:14 EDT
 From: Terry <73060.205@CompuServe.COM>
 Subject: Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #219

 to kareoke queen   what did you think about dave matthews
 after ben folds they are my favorite band
 sarah

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 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:13:41 +0200
 From: rsnead@awod.com
 Subject: Ben Folds Promo

 Hello all,

 As old Bryce said I too want the Bff promo video too.  Can someone pick it
 up for me?  It's at Tower Records and there are none of these stores
 located near me... I'll do the same as Bryce, pay for everything and give
 you some money for your time and effort.  If someone does this I'll even
 make a quicktime movie of it and put on the net for all to see.  Well
 anyways someone please help.

 Bryan Snead
 rsnead@awod.com

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 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:01:02 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Kreeaytv@aol.com
 Subject: Tempe, AZ show

 Hi All!

 I just recently joined the mailing list for Armchair, and am glad to see I'm
 not the only one who thinks BFF is amazing.  I saw them for the first time in
 LA about two years  ago (it was also the first time I had ever heard of them)
 at a radio station sponsored concert.  It was BFF, Barenaked Ladies (another
 band that is absolutely mind blowing live) and a few other bands I don't
 remember.  BFF was the first band on, and the sound was atrocious.  The mix
 was all wrong, the instruments would sometimes stop working - but I was
 floored anyway.  They played Underground, Where's Summer B, Philosophy and a
 few others.  I just couldn't believe I had never heard of them before.
  Despite the fact that they were being sabotaged by the sound people - they
 rocked.  I bought the album the next day, and have been spreading the word
 ever since.

 Here's my dilemma: They never play anywhere near LA.  I want to drive to
 Tempe and see the show at Gibson's if possible, does anyone know how to get
 tickets?  Is the show sold out?  Please help.

 Thanks for listening,

 Matt (kreeaytv@aol.com)

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 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 18:26:53 -0400 (EDT)
 From: ShirowFan@aol.com
 Subject: Jonesin' for a Video

 Folks---Looking for that Tower Video with Ben and Friends. Will pay for it!!

 Can't wait till Lawrence--
 dave

 P.S. Somebody E-mail me and tell me about Liberty Hall. The damn tickets are
 all Gen. Addmission, and i have to get there early for good seats.

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 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 01:02:53 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Aneehall73@aol.com
 Subject: Alt. Lyrics & other blah blah blah ginger

 Hey party people

 I haven't posted in a while but have been skimming over all the reviews and
 stuff. It's so hard sometimes to read them and not take stuff personally, ya
 know? o well.

 Let's see,  Kristin mentioned a discrepancy in the written lyrics for "Dwarf"
 and what is sung. It reads "Mom said someday I would have" and what i hear is
 "My mom said by Christmas i would have.... a badass mutha GI Joe..." so no
 Kristin yer not crazy, yer probably just drawn that way. :D

 Okay and another post from Scott spoke of a comparison of Ben to Joe Jackson,
 that seems very true (and i'msure it's been mentioned before) , especially in
 the song "Selfless, Cold and Composed," which i happen to like a whole honey
 bunches of oats.

 A comparison I'm really surprised hasn't been mentioned is Ben and Biggie
 Smalls. Hee hee (no Ben hasn't been shot) but, it's just funny what a tuff
 guy he can pretend to be in shows and at the one i saw in oralndo last year,
 he started a song by yelling "Are ya'll ready for that gangsta s***?" Funny.
 But i'm going nowhere with this, well maybe to one more comparison, a real
 one this time. The much-dreaded (not by me, i dig it)  song "Cigarette"
 reminded me at first listen of French Composer/Pianist Claude Bolling, who as
 far as i know did the sndtrk. for Neil Simons' flick, "Californa Suite".
 Anyone else hear that?

 Okay well that's enough silliness for now. If you'd like to a see anotha damn
 review of the new album, you could check out my fakey fake homepage at
 www.firefly.com, look for member name "daughterjudy" :D

 smiling in her special way,
 shida/aneehall73

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 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 97 10:45:00 PDT
 From: "Riley, Adrian D [DBE]" <A.D.Riley@lmu.ac.uk>
 Subject: "Keep that sheet safe"?

 Is Sam Jacob Lewis (issue  221) right in his interpretation of the lyrics in
 the jazzy bit in 'Stephens last night' ?  - "Ooooh, keep that sheet safe"

 Anybody got any other ideas?

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 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 13:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
 From: RnRinDC@aol.com
 Subject: quirky lyrics?

 > Some guy from WVU wrote:
 > Where's the quirky lyrics and inventiveness of Underground?  You can't
 >  count Dwarf, Dumped, of Steven becaus those were old songs.

 how about in Fair:
 "he was thrown head over heels into the traffic coming on....."

 or Kate:
 "Down by the Rosemary and Cameron/she hands out the Bhagavad Gita/I see her
 round every couple days/I wanna meet her so that I can say....hey Kate"

 or BoWCCL:
 "Fine pewter portraits of general apathy and major boredom singing whatever
 and ever amen......"

 Sorry that you are that unhappy with the disc - yeah, there are some more
 mellow songs on this one than the first, and while I admit that I don't love
 every song.....there are 7 phenomenal songs on there and another few that
 I'll listen to as well.

 I guess that is my take on the album as a whole.  For me, the high points are
 higher than the first album, but the low points are far lower too.  As far as
 the "mellow" songs are concerned, I love "Brick" - wow; "Selfless....." is
 okay - interesting compisition; "Smoke" is good, but I'm not going to jam
 down the highway to it........frankly (nothing personal, Frank!), I can't
 seem to get through "Missing the War" and "Evaporated", but it doesn't keep
 me from saying that this is the best album I've purchased in 1997.

 Although I don't love every song, I do love the fact that it is not just like
 the first album.  That might be okay for a second album, but a third album of
 the same ould just sound flat.   I think that you can definitely hear the
 maturity in a lot of the song writing.....I think that we are in for years of
 BF5.

 Rich
 (who is tripping from DC to Philly on 4/30)

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 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 13:47:39 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Jason Martin <UN036034@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
 Subject: BF5 Tour Date

 Armchairite First-Class J. Martin here reporting the following:

 I was skimming the Verve Pipe'
 s page when I came across the following:

 June 1 (Sat)  Walnut Creek Amphitheater, Raleigh-Durham, NC

 Verve Pipe w/ Barenaked Ladies, BEN FOLDS FIVE, Sublime, and
 Luscious Jackson

 Can anybody confirm this?

 Jason

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 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 15:55:09 -0400
 From: elutz@kent.edu
 Subject: real fans and Identification

 Hi,        I guess I  want everyone to know that a true fan is like a real
 friend  with each other till the end(hopefully BFF will never end) but why
 are you  complaining, I mean don't you want them to be successfull?  I know
 that a lot of people are woried about the main streeam and it seems to me
 that Bff is really down to earth so I don't think that will change that
 much.  I know that I get everyone I can to listen to the band, I even
 preformed one of their songs live once apon a time When I was in a band...,
 but my point is we all wanted fame for them, but are now taking it back?
 Fads come and go but turue fans are there always.  The good thing is that
 maybe it will be more adventurouse to get tickets.   I once camped out for
 two days  to get tickets for and REM show and The show ended up being one of
 the greatest shows I have ever seen and I had a grand O'l time camping out.
 there are good aspects   I am telling my friends "I told you so..."....a
 lot.  and when people ask me "Who's that on the raido?"   I say proudly Ben
 Folds Five and they say " hey thre pretty good!" And I say "Yeh I know..."
 We all  love the the guys(and to keep them to our self) but we have to
 accept their popularty and be proud of it.


 The other thing is that For Identification at concerts: The t-shirts are a
 good Idea, But I have no way of knowing how to do that. But I do know how to
 get buttons made(fairly cheeply too)...Sounds dorkie I know but it could be
 cool.....let me know if any one is interested  elutz@pop.kent.edu  or
 waxgrl2@hotmail.com

 another thing I have a picture of the guys at  Lola  (from the preformance
 in Columbus) and Would be willing to share and or trade  let me know...

 Elizabeth

 elutz@pop.kent.edu   or   waxgrl2@hotmail.com
 "Let's all go were we are not wanted
 Let's all be someone we're not
 let's all go where were out of place
 you can use my name..."-Fith Wheel-therapy for the sane

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 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:54:44 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Bnanakingg@aol.com
 Subject: Salt Lake Review

 Hi kids,

 So my friend and I heard Ben Folds Five from the back door of the Zephyer
 here in Salt Lake last night and would just like to say they are incredible!
  When we arrived their bus driver was trying to load up the trailer onto the
 jack of the bus, so being the nice young men that we are, we helped him out
 with directions and backing up onto it, but at one point he wehnt WAY too
 fast and we were motioning for him to stop, but he backed up into the trailer
 and we broke his jack....  Also being the small young men that we are, we
 couldn't help him lift the trailer back up onto the jack, so he thanked us
 for our help, insisted that it was his fault and then motioned for us to get
 the hell away from him.  About 15 minutes later I look over, and there's Ben
 crossing the street, but we couldn't move, so we just sat there and he gave
 us a grin as he walked into the club.  About 10 minutes after that Robert and
 Darren came crossing the other street and we went up and introduced
 ourselves, shook hands, got autographs, the whole fan crap.  Darren wento
 into the building a couple minutes later but Tobert just sat there and talked
 to us forever about touring with Counting Crows.  I had a Gershwin book that
 I had brought for Ben to sign becuase I've been playing since I was 5, and he
 sat there and talked to us forever about this big Gershwin box set back home
 and we apologized for breaking the jack on the bus.  REALLY nice guys.
  Anyway, he went into the building and then a lady came out and got onto the
 tour bus.  After she came ou we stopped her and asked her what their taping
 policy was, just to be on the safe side, and she said she wasn't sure.  My
 friend asked if she was a part of the crew, and she said, "No, I'm his wife."
  We shook hands as I looked stupidly at her and confirmed that was in fact,
  the REAL KATE.  She talked to us for a while then went into the building.
  AND THEN SHE SENT BEN OUT TO TALK TO US!  We didn't even ask her to.  He
 just came over to us and introduced himself and we did the same, and then we
 talked to him about the Doobie Brothers shirt that he had so proudly
 purchased down the street at the Salvation Army, about how he enjoyed Berkely
 the best so far, about how long he's been playing   me:"How long have you
 been playing?"  Ben:"Wince I was about 9."  me:"Wow!  did you train
 classically?" Ben:"For about a year, but after that I just slammed on it."
 Then some other folks that had met him at Ziggy's came over and talked, and
 we all took our little pictures, and then he was called back into the
 building talk to some representatives.  Anyway, I know I've been going on
 now, so here's the setlist:
 Missing the War, Emaline, Philosophy, Selfless Cold & Composed, can't
 remember, Alice Childress, Kate, Steven's Last Nightin Town, Brick, Jackson
 Cannery (Before he started this he apologized because we were underage and
 couldn't get in and asked everybody to shout hello to us at the back door),
 One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces, Fair, some heavy metal song that I'm
 probably too young to know the title of, Battle of Who Could Care Less, a
 song that sounded very much like Rage Against the Machine but don't know what
 it was (before he started this somebody asked him to play "For Those of Ya'll
 Who Wear Fanny Packs", and he said that they had unfortunately just made that
 one up as they went and didn't remember it), Where's Summer B., Theme from
 Dr. Pussy, Song for the Dumped, Uncle Walter, Underground, Smoke, Julianne,
 some country song that I don't know, and that was it.  If anybody out there
 went to this show and can help me fill in the blanks, please do.
 I had somebody take a recorder in for me, and I guess it's a decent copy.  It
 only recorded on the left channel, and I didn't any of the songs after
 Underground, but if anybody would like a copy, just let me know....  I'd only
 give it about a B.  Sorry I've rambled on for so long...  This was my first
 show.

 Over,
 Bryce

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 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:28:46 -0500
 From: "Greg Monkey (Drunken Monkey Fanzine)" <pavement@idir.net>
 Subject: Lawrence, KS show...April 21

         Just wondering if anyone is going to the April 21st show at Liberty
 Hall in Lawrence, KS...I'll be there, working security.  I can't let anyone
 in or anything, but still, if someone is gonna be there, lemme know and say
 hi or whatever!

 Greg

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 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 19:56:24 +0000
 From: Geof Goldbogen <goldbogen@earthlink.net>
 Subject: Tapes

 Still looking for any tapes of Ben Folds. Have plenty of other stuff
 to trade Bela Fleck, Blues Traveler, Dave Matthews Band, Phish, Ben
 Harper etc. If not I'll send some blanks or something. I'm going to the
 Metro(Chicago) show on the 24th, can't wait!
 										goldbogen@earthlink.net
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 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 20:57:19 -0700
 From: Garrett Helmer <ghelmer@cs.byu.edu>
 Subject: I bought BBF dinner at Denny's!

 	last night was I had the pleasure of seeing the Five in Salt Lake.
 The show was the best I've seen so far - out of three shows.  I don't have
 a lot of time, but I'll just say that if they're coming anywhere close to
 you, you must see them.  I got to the club where they were playing an hour
 and a half early, and Ben came walking in and he immediately recognized me
 from the show I saw in Winston Salem.  He said, "hey, you're the North
 Carolina guy!"  I went up to him and introduced my fiance, and we talked
 for about five minutes.  I asked him about counting crows and all that,
 and he said it was cool playing in front of so many people.  He did say
 that their first show with them in Seattle was a little rusty for some
 reason.  He said it was probably because of playing in front of so many
 people for the first time.  Darrin told me that opening for CC's in
 Berkley was probably the best and most fun so far.
 	one song that was hillarious was "ultimate sacrifice", which they
 said was kind of a joke between them.  They also played "fanny packs", but
 it was kind of a mix between that and something from rage against the
 machine.  They never sang the actual words "fanny packs", but Ben did his
 'babble rap' and his incredible piano solo.
 	After hanging out, getting t-shirts signed and all that, my
 friends and I took off and went to Denny's to eat.  We had been eating for
 about 20 minutes when we saw our waiter sit Ben, Kate, Robert, Darrin, and
 a roadie named Trey at a table right across from ours.  We couldn't pass
 up the opportunity to thank them for the incredible show by annonymously
 picking up their tab.

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