THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #384 - July 3, 1997
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phone ringing in Steven's
Re: ID
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #383
WHY?
It's Sunny here in CA
Reverb
HBO ben folds coverage.
t-shirts
Re: unsibscribe request
Thanks!
BFF & Gen 13!
RE: M2 and concert ettiquette
majorstupid
SLNIT phone call
Ben Folds Five Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) v3.0 (07/03/97)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 22:32:55 -0500
From: Dan Goodspeed <goodsd@rpi.edu>
Subject: phone ringing in Steven's
when i did that interview with the band, I asked them about the phone
ringing, and I'm pretty sure they mentioned that it was just turned off
without answer. So I guess we'll never know who was calling.
| Dan Goodspeed (518) 399-9822 | "...and I owe my life,
| goodsd@rpi.edu pianoman76@aol.com | to the people that I love"
| http://www.rpi.edu/~goodsd |
| BUM: www.rpi.edu/~goodsd/bum.html | -- AD
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 23:19:17 EDT
From: shultz@bme1.image.uky.edu (Jason Shultz)
Subject: Re: ID
><< you know how people are always trying to think of ways to identify other
> armchairites at the shows? >>
>
>On the DMB mailing list, Nancies, we had the same problem. Someone came up
>with the idea of candy necklaces..it seems to have worked very well!
On the old Grateful Dead list, someone actually printed up
T-shirts every 6 months and people bought them via mail.
It worked damn well, also. However, it's hard to find someone
that dedicated to an internet sub-society to take the time
to print all those shirts out.
Any takers?
Shultz
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 23:51:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hotdoglove@aol.com
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #383
Server, are you not getting my posts?
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:09:51 -0400
From: Steffen Donath <SDonath@compuserve.com>
Subject: WHY?
WHY?...is it sooo hard to read the first part of every Magical Armchair
that tells exactly how to unsubscribe?
WHY?... is it sooo hard to write a separate e-mail instead of pressing the
"REPLY" button?
WHY?... do we always end up with massive Magical Armchairs that are
basically just a repeat of an older Issue?
WHY?...
Steffen
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:34:20 -0700
From: Peters <gickr@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: It's Sunny here in CA
I thought of this song vs song thing as if I could only have one BFF disc in my life.
The songs that didn't make it would never be heard again. It would suck but here it is,
the deserted island view.
Jackson Cannery (tough call)
Philosophy
Brick
Summer B.
Alice Childress
Underground
Smoke (easy call)
Uncle Walter (By far)
Best Imitation
Video (this was the hardest)
Last Polka
Evaporated
W&EA 3
BFF 9
On a separate note, can anyone give more background to the song Theme from Dr. Physer?
In the Seattle show Ben introduced it as 'my piano guy changed the legs on my piano and
made it a midget piano. This is a song for my piano guy'
In the Salt Lake City gig, Ben and Robert went on (not exact wording):
R: 'you guys have heard of punk rock for sissies right? We thought we were so cool and
in touch with our manhood that we could say we were punk rock for sissies. We were in
Norway and they misconstued the meaning of what we were trying to say. They interpreted
that we were actually the sissies playing the music. The word for sissie in Norway is
Physer, which is very similar to another word.'
B: 'The direct english translation is pussy'
R: 'They were all "physer, physer, physer"
B: 'So the moral of the story is, you can lead a band to Munick but you can't let them
talk too much.'
Take care,
Garrick
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:42:38 -0500
From: kristin@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kristin R. King)
Subject: Reverb
I caught the end of "Song for the Dumped" on Reverb a couple of weeks ago. Then
the show moved on to another band. Did they play anything else before that?
Kristin
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 12:11:51 -0400
From: Jeff Suarez <smooth@jhu.edu>
Subject: HBO ben folds coverage.
hey.
for any of you with HBO or HBO2 out there, i just got a new listing of
"Rock ON TV" and tonight (Wednesday) at 2:55 in the morning (so actually
i guess it would be Thursday) it has listed that bff will be
covered on a show called "reverb." here is the info on that:
2:55 am - HBO - Reverb : concert footage and interviews of Ben Folds Five,
Cibo Matto, Duncan Sheik, and Jill Sobule
Also it has listed that this sunday the sixth, bff will be on again on
"reverb" but this time on HBO2, so anyone who has HBO2 should definitely
check that out. it is on at 11 PM. and the info on that is:
11:00 pm - HBO2 - Reverb : interviews and concert footage featuring Soul
Coughing, Son Volt, the Eels, and Ben Folds Five
i am going to try to tape the one tonight, but hopefully someone will tape
the one sunday, if so i would definitely like a copy of that if it is a
different tape, especially since soul coughing will be on too.
later.
- -jeff
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:52:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alanica@aol.com
Subject: t-shirts
OK. Would ya'll like it better for the shirts to have an armchair with Uncle
Walter in it, or just a plian armchair. I need your imput! : ) I know that
BF5 aren't coming to Charolette for HORDE. Doesn;t it seem appropriate for
them to come, since it's so close to their home? Oh well, I guess they have
other plans.
til next time,
Becca
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:05:14 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 13:21:44 PDT
From: "Russell Dauberman" <one_angry_dwarf@hotmail.com>
Subject: Thanks!
Hello, Collective!
Thanks to everyone who answered my question about the bonus track on the
Japanese pressing of the first record! And, it was quite a few people
who answered, which is why I am thanking you all through the Armchair,
not directly!!
Thanks again!
Russell (the no longer angry dwarf)
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:26:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric Patton <shirak@umich.edu>
Subject: BFF & Gen 13!
Only a true geek like yours truly would find out about stuff like
this. Anyway, it's Wenesday, and I'm doing the one thing that Wenesdays
were created for: checking out the new comics. I'm reading over the Gen 13
Bootleg, and just generally flipping through. One of the characters
reaches over and flips on the TV, and BFF is on! Well, they just printed
the lyrics to BoWCCL, but it was still cool, especially since they used it
to distract and kill the villains. ;) And no, I STILL won't give out my
top ten list!
ERIC
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"When I want your opinion, I'll BEAT IT OUT OF YOU!!!!"
Vegita
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:30:11 -0700
From: Peter Duniho <peted@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: M2 and concert ettiquette
Pop Queen mentions "the guy who asked about 'pogoers' and other
illmannered folk at shows," a message which I apparently missed :( .
Funny the topic should come up though...another of my favorite bands is
The Posies. At a show here in Seattle, in December of '93, the moshers
were especially bad (mostly drunk college kids, more interested in
seeing who can be the most annoying, than in listening to the music and
enjoying the show). In response, Ken Stringfellow (one of the two
primary members of The Posies) wrote a piece for a local free newspaper
called The Stranger. You can find the text at:
http://www.slumberland.com/moshers.html
Of course, it's pretty much preaching to the choir here, but it still
makes a good read. The site is actually an un-official official Posies
web site, which can be found at:
http://www.slumberland.com/dear23.html
Enjoy!
Pete
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:46:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kcelly@aol.com
Subject: majorstupid
Arrrghhhh! Why in the heck am I only getting every other (or less) Armchair
digest?
Kelly
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:59:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
Subject: SLNIT phone call
Hey all--
A few digests ago someone asked who was on the phone when it rang at 2:53
in "Steven's Last Night in Town". I asked Ben that very same question
(or, at the very least, heard someone else ask) when I saw them in
Cincinnati a few weeks back. He said that it was just a friend of theirs,
asking how things were going (or something like that). Nothing exciting,
I know, but interesting to know nevertheless...
Anyone know status on tickets for the HORDE tour dates in Noblesville IN,
Cincinnati OH, and Columbus OH? Are any of those sold out? E-mail me
privately, please. Thanks.
Bill Tatalovich
wt3@cec.wustl.edu
"I'm an island of such great complexity...."
--Pavement
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 97 17:10:51 -0500
From: "Scott A. Schneider" <echo@msn.globaldialog.com>
Subject: Ben Folds Five Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) v3.0 (07/03/97)
Ben Folds Five Frequesntly Asked Questions (FAQ) v3.0 (07/03/97)
Table of Contents
Part I: About The Band
1. Chronology and Personnel
A. Who is in Ben Folds Five?
B. What is the origin of the name?
C. Have any of the members been involved with other artists?
2. Who have Ben Folds Five toured with?
3. Is the band on the Internet?
4. What can be expected if I see the band live?
Part II: Album Questions
1. D-Tox Jackson Cannery 7"
A. What are the track listings?
B. Is this still available?
2. Self-titled album
A. General information
B. What are the differences between the tape and CD versions?
C. Why is there sometimes talking at the beginning/end of tracks?
D. Who is Anna Goodman?
E. Who is Alice Childress?
3. Whatever & Ever Amen
A. General information
B. What are the songs about?
C. Okay, so what is "Brick" *really* about?
D. Was that a phone that I heard in "Steven's Last Night in Town"?
E. Crickets in "Cigarette"?
F. What is this "Bhagavad Gita" thing mentioned in "Kate"?
Part III: Live shows
1. What's that miniature-keyboard looking thing that Ben plays in
"Steven's Last Night in Town"?
2. It that piano the same one...
3. Are soundboard plug-in recordings allowed? What about hand-held
boot-
legged recordings? Cameras?
Part IV: Miscellaneous
1. How can I contact the band?
2. Are band t-shirts available if I didn't go to any of the live shows?
3. The Magical Armchair mailing list
A. What is it?
B. How do I join?
4. Has the band made any television appearances?
5. Where can I get ahold of some sheet music?
Part V: About this document
1. Who wrote this FAQ?
2. How do I make a submission?
3. Can I re-distribute this FAQ?
4. Misc. legal information
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Part I: About Ben Folds Five
1. Chronology and Personnel
A. Who is in Ben Folds Five?
Ben Folds, piano & vocals
Robert Sledge, bass & backing vocals
Darren Jessee, drums & backing vocals
B. What is the origin of the name?
According to Ben, Ben Folds Five received it's name (despite the fact
that the band only consists of 3 members) because it "sounds better than
Ben Folds Three."
C. Have any of the members been involved with other artists?
Yes, and a whole slew of them, too:
Ben: Began in a band called Majosha, which later evloved into Pots &
Pans. Gillmer Derge sums up the whole Majosha/P&P controversy:
- ---
Around early 1988 Majosha formed and played their first gig at Duke
University's Battle of the Bands. They won. At that time, Majosha was
Ben on bass, Millard Powers on guitar, some guy named Dave on drums and
a fourth guy (Rob?) who was never heard from again.
For the purposes of historical completeness, it should bem mentioned
that at that time, Majosha was spelled with an accent over the o. At
some point that was dropped, mostly because people were too stupid to
realize that the accent didn't mean it was Muh-joe'-sha (it's
Muh-jah'-sha).
They played bars and frat parties for a while and eventually put out a
self-produced EP sold at a few local stores called "Party Night: Five
Songs About Jesus." There were 4 songs, and none were about Jesus. I
think the 4 songs were: Get That Bug (Outta Your System), Kalamazoo,
Where's Bohemia and Cool Whip. I'm not so sure about Where's Bohemia.
Gradually their popularity grew and they played larger and farther flung
gigs. Some time in 1989, they recorded "Shut Up and Listen to Majosha."
That's about the time Dave got the boot and was replaced with Chris
(Hound). They also borrowed Evan Olsen from Chuck Folds' band, the DT's
at about the same time. Various tracks on Shut Up feature Dave, Chris or
Ben on drums and/or Evan, Ben or Millard doing vocals. Shut Up contains,
among others, the 4 songs from Party Night (remixed and/or rerecorded),
Emaline and Video.
At about the same time they did some sort of dance mix of Get That Bug
that was released somehow in Japan. As a promotional CD?
At some point, Hound got sacked as well, and was replaced by Eddie
Walker, who I think was also in the DT's with Chuck and Evan (all 3 of
whom eventually became Bus Stop with Snuzz).
In early 1990 Majosha broke up, and Ben formed Pots and Pans with Snuzz
and some other guy. Ben played drums. They disappeared soon after.
- ---
Ben's name also appears on the band Barry Black's debut album, playing
either piano or drums on 9 out of 14 of the tracks. Barry Black's music
is a serene, jazzy-style; mostly instrumental. Ben also plays drums on a
few tracks on Fleming and John's debut albom, "Delusions of Grandeur.".
He makes a cameo appearance in the video for "I'm not afraid" as a
drummer atop a huge cake. His name also appears in various places on CDs
by his brother Chuck's band, Bus Stop.
Robert: Used to be in a band called Toxic Popsicle. Their album is still
available from D-Tox Records.
Darren: In a band called In Limbo, based out of Greenville, NC. It was a
decidely pop band, in which Darren came on in 1989 to replace another
drummer who "didn't work out". They released a CD entitled "What?".
2. Who have Ben Folds Five toured with?
Neil Young, Jewel, Counting Crows, Gin Blossoms, Majosha, September 67,
and that whole "Lollapalooza" second-stage thing, to name just a few...
3. Is the band on the Internet?
Yes and no. There is an "official" web page being run by Sony/550
Records at www.bffweb.com, where there is a biography on the band, sound
clips, and merchandise ordering information. It's undisclosed how much
the band actually has to do with the page, though...
And, although they have an e-mail address listed in the linear notes of
"Whatever and Ever Amen", it was cancelled a few months or so before the
album actually came out, and therefor doesn't yield much of a response.
4. What can be expected if I see the band live?
The band travels from destination to destination in a U-Haul truck,
carrying Ben's own Baldwin baby-grand piano. During the show, expect Ben
to be jumping around, piano-diving, stool-throwing, and a generally fun
and exciting high-energy show!
Part II: Album Questions
1. D-Tox Jackson Cannery 7"
A. What are the track listings?
1. Jackson Cannery
2. Eddie Walker, This is Your Life
Recorded by Caleb Southern on March 25th, 1994. "Jackson Cannery" is a
different recording than on the self-titled album.
B. Is this still available?
No. As of April 1996, this limited edition one-time pressing is out of
stock.
2. Self-titled album
A. General information
The twelve tracks:
1. Jackson Cannery
2. Philosophy
3. Julianne
4. Where's Summer B.?
5. Alice Childress
6. Underground
7. Sports & Wine
8. Uncle Walter
9. Best Imitation of Myself
10. Video
11. The Last Polka
12. Boxing
The Japanese version of the album contained the bonus track, "Tom and
Mary,"
which can be found on the UK "Where's Summer B.?" single.
Released on Passenger/Caroline Records.
B. What are the differences between the tape and CD versions?
The copies are identical with the exception of "Uncle Walter" which
includes the line "well fuck you!" in the lyrics.
C. Why is there sometimes talking at the beginning/end of tracks?
The recording of most of the album tracks were done in a "live-show"
style, sans-audience. Fewer re-takes pushed a faster release date for
the album.
D. Who is Anna Goodman?
Anna Goodman is a good friend of Ben's who also helped co-write "Alice
Childress" and "The Last Polka".
E. Who is Alice Childress?
Despite rumors, the song "Alice Childress" is not referring to the
author and playright Alice Childress, or the songwriter Alex Chilton.
The name was evoked from a mental patient in a hospital where Anna
Goodman (the song's co-writer) worked. Alice supposedly threw mop watter
on Anna.
3. Whatever and Ever Amen
A. General information
The highly anticipated second album from Ben Folds Five, titled
"Whatever and Ever Amen", contains twelve tracks. The track listing is
as follows:
1. One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces
2. Fair
3. Brick
4. Song for the Dumped
5. Selfless, Cold and Composed
6. Kate
7. Smoke
8. Cigarette
9. Steven's Last Night in Town
10. Battle of Who Could Care Less
11. Missing the War
12. Evaporated
The japanese version of the album will contain one extra track, "Song
for the Dumped" as sung by Ben in japanese.
It was released on Sony/550 Records.
B. What are the songs about?
The following are explanations of the songs by Ben himself, taken from
the Sony/550 web site:
One Angry Dwarf And 200 Solemn Faces: "This is basically a portrait of a
guy that has to succeed so he can tell off everyone who used to pick on
him. It's a revenge anthem."
Fair: "It's a 'dig-me-and-all-my-pain' type of song. Definitely for the
self-destructive romantic person. It came from a newspaper article
concerning a domestic dispute which wound up in a death."
Brick: "It's really self-explanatory."
Song For The Dumped: "Darren, our drummer, just got dumped and scratched
out some angry lyrics and gave them to me. It was a joke, but it was
coming from a real place. I put the music to it in minutes. It's a
satire on the obtuse male anger of being dumped, but still caring about
the girl who dumped you."
Selfless, Cold And Composed: "It's kind of about your average
middle-class white guy ? the kind of guy that can't express his emotions
and has a hard time caring about others. He's the anti- dote to the guy
in 'Dumped.'"
Kate: "Really it's a song that's just cute and adoring. I felt it was
time for a song like that from someone. from our generation. It's a
crush song."
Smoke: "I co-wrote this song with someone else, so I wouldn't want to
speak for her, but what it means to me is that you can't escape from
your memories or your past,"
Cigarette: "It's a weird vibe song."
Steven's Last Night In Town: "A guy came to visit us in North Carolina
and he hung out for a while, but then he wouldn't leave. We must have
thrown five or six going-away parties for him. So I wrote him this song
and gave it to him."
Battle Of Who Could Care Less: "This is like the notion that the more
you care about some thing your cat or whatever - the less they care
about you. It's the same way in the world of rock 'n' roll a lot - I
wanted to get that across."
Missing The War: "This is a song left over from the first album. It's
really the sister song to 'Last Polka' on the first album."
Evaporated: "It's about loss."
C. Okay, so what is "Brick" *really* about?
It's been argued to the point of exhaustion, and people still seem to
disagree on this one. Ben hasn't ever really said, except in joke (ie:
"This is a song about taking your dog to the bet"), but the general
theory is that it's about a trip to an abortion clinic.
D. Was that a phone that I heard in "Steven's Last Night in Town"?
Yup, sure is! If you listen really carefully, you can hear what sounds
like a cellular phone ring at or around 2:54 in the song.
E. Crickets in "Cigarette"?
...and if you turn up the volume loud enough on "Cigarette", you can
hear crickets chirping away in the background! As to whether or not
they are chirping to the tune of the National Anthem depends upon what
you're been smoking recently...
F. What is this "Bhagavad Gita" thing mentioned in "Kate"?
To quote Adam DeLisse, from the Magical Armchair:
- ---
The Bhagavad Gita, once and for all, is an ancient indian text in which
Krishna, an avatar of Vishnu, takes earthly form to teach arjuna the
archer his duties as a warrior, and he ends up having to kill all of his
evil cousins to save his wife and brothers. It pertains to the Hindu
faith and was written to teach moral lessons on performing the duties of
your societal class without looking at the consequences.
- ---
...and there you have it.
1. What's that miniature-keyboard looking thing that Ben plays in
"Steven's Last Night in Town"?
It's called a melodica.
2. It that piano the same one...
The same one you saw two years ago when they were playing small venues in
front of tiny crowds? Yup. Same beat-up old Baldwin...
3. Are soundboard plug-in recordings allowed? What about hand-held boot-
legged recordings? Cameras?
It all depends on who you ask. Soundboard plug-ins are generally not
allowed, but that doesn't mean that there haven't been any. Hand-held
boots are alright by the band, so if the venue complains, let them know!
Cameras all depend on the venue rules, and whether or not you are able
to obtain a photo pass from the band and/or the management.
Part IV: Miscellaneous
1. How can I contact the band?
First ane foremost, get on their snailmail list. Rip the card out of the
insert that came with the CD, and send it in to Caroline Records. For
lyrics and further information, contact:
Ben Folds Five
P. O. Box 1028
Chapel Hill, N.C. 27514-1028
2. Are band t-shirts available if I didn't go to any of the live shows?
Yes! Full ordering information is available on the official web page at
www.bffweb.com. A japanese-imported limited-edition signed songbook is
also available for ordering.
3. The Magical Armchair mailing list
A. What is it?
"The Magical Armchair" is a Internet listserv mailing-list. It is where
the bulk of the information in thie FAQ was found, and offers an in-depth
look at the band through the eyes of it's fans.
B. How do I join?
To subscribe to the Magical Armchair, send an e-mail message from the
account you would like subscribed to:
armchair-request@maillist.il.ft.hse.nl
The Subject: field can be left blank.
In the message body, put the word
subscribe
You will receive a confirmation message and further instructions.
To receive more information on the Magical Armchair without subscribing,
send an e-mail message to:
majordomo@maillist.il.ft.hse.nl
The Subect: field may be left blank.
In the message body put:
info armchair
Majordomo will send you a description of the mailing list and information
on how to subscribe.
If you have further questions, please address them to the listowner:
maynard@oeonline.com
4. Has the band made any television appearances?
USA coverage includes the band's performance of "Underground" and
"Battle of Who Could Care Less" on Late Night with Conan O'Brien, and
"Underground" ABC's In Concert. As far as MTV, they performed "One Angry
Dwarf" on The Jenny McCarthy Show, their videos (Underground, Uncle
Walter, and Battle of Who Could Care Less) have each aired once on MTV's
120 Minutes, BOWCCL has been featured in the M2 early-morning spotlight,
and the band was also briefly featured durring MTV's Lollapalooza
coverage.
And of course there are those frequent apperances as background music for
MTV, Party of Five, and countless others. Ben Folds also lended his voice
for an episode of "Space Ghost: Coast to Coast".
A video for "Kate" was recorded in Japan in Ben's hotel room before a
show. It will probably never see the light of day on MTV in the states.
UK coverage includes an appearence on the BBC show "Later... with Jules
Holland" in which they only played one song, Philosophy. The video for
Battle of Who Could Care Less has appeared on The Chart Show (ITV), Top
of the Pops 2 (BBC2), and The O Zone (BBC2). An interview also appeared
on The O Zone.
Japanese coverage includes some strange sitcom having a fixation with
Ben Folds?
Part V: About this document
1. Who wrote this FAQ?
Scott A. Schneider (echo@msn.globaldialog.com).
The following people also contributed in one way or another:
Frank Maynard, Mark Piper, Alex Torrance, Gillmer Derge, K. V. Sutton.
2. How do I make a submission?
Send questions and/or answers to Scott at:
echo@msn.globaldialog.com
And they will be added to the FAQ.
3. Can I re-distribute this FAQ?
Yes, as long as it is not altered in any form. A short e-mail is also
appreciated, but not necessary.
4. Misc. legal information
This document (both visual and HTML) is Copyright (c) 1996-97, S. A.
Schneider.
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