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The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #493 - September 24, 1997



Magical Armchair Digest Wednesday, September 24 1997 Volume 01 : Number 493



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    Recommended If You Like...
    live re-arangements?
    Re: Ben on ARIAs!
    Armchair#491
    Re: BF5 does "Wave a White Flag" (Elvis Costello)
    re: barry black
    Martin Place gig
    one angry Australian and 200...something elses...
    BFF at Martin Place
    BFF on Aussie TV
    Uncle Walter AND BOWCCL on MTV shows/Chicago show 10/30
    Re: Duritz 
    One less slug on the planet
    cornell info 
    HELPHELPHELPHELPHELPHELP
    real world stuff...
    I have a web address where you can order BFF singles 
    Martin Place free concert! 
    Underground and St. Petersburg Show
    Oh NO!

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 19:56:38 -0500 
From: rosaliem@bbs.exoticomm.com
Subject: Recommended If You Like...

Hi folks,

I got the latest issue of CMJ New Music Monthly yesterday, and there was
a review of a band called Super Deluxe. The review compared their songs
to Squeeze, Queen, and mentioned that they had great 4-part harmonies
and a piano.

Well, this had me thinking of you-know-who, so I hunted down the cd that
night. They sound nothing like Ben Folds Five, and are nowhere NEAR as
original or talented, but it's actually a great record. The lead singer
sounds a lot like Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze, so they get points right
there.

If anyone else has this record, "Via Satellite," let me know your
opionion.

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 22:31:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: mayns@netcom.ca
Subject: live re-arangements?

Hi,
	I've got a request:  could someone, if it hasn't been done already, who has a vast knowledge of the boys and their performances, compile a list of which songs have been re-aranged somewhere between the recording studio and a live performance.  I think so
meone who has alot of concert tapes could put together a list quite quickly.  I good list would include the song and how it has been changed, i.e. "Song for the Dumped" gets japanese lyrics added, "Julianne" gets a funky intro, etc, etc, etc.  I'd really 
like to hear how many songs get changed over time (I know its a kick to hear a familiar song played differently when you see them live).  Also any lyric changes would also fit in the list.  If anyone would post any info they have on the armchair or send i
t to me, I'd be willing to complie a post a somewhat-comprehnsive list.  if this has already been done, please post it.  

Thanx,
John Maynard
(no relation to frank (I think)) 

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 19:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jac \(jp^\)" <jpgr@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ben on ARIAs!

hey!
yeah i did catch the arias last night. I taped the whole thing
just to see Ben on it. He announced the winner for the
best Australian Jazz record, with the lead singer from Cake.
I loved it, although I would have loved it more if he had of
performed. I also caught 1 angry dwarf in the background
of the first award :)


shit yeah it's cool!
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:05:15 -0400
From: "John E. Fahey" <jfahey@cyberportal.net>
Subject: Armchair#491

Am the only person who didn't receive bumber 491? If it came to everyone
else, I'd appreciate it if someone would forward it to me.
Thanx!
John Fahey

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:10:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve Clay <fender@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Re: BF5 does "Wave a White Flag" (Elvis Costello)

I haven't heard anything official to that nature, but if it's a rumor
floating around it may be true because I know they've done this in
concerts months back.  That should truely be interesting to hear and it's
one of my favorite little songs by Elvis off my definitely fave album by
him.  I'd sure love to hear them do "Welcome to the Working Week" also; I
could just hear them "bouncifying" it.  On a rather unrelated note, I'm
still waiting for Ben to admit his love for the Cardigans...  The band
*has* made the first step by admitting how they could beat them up. :)

Steve

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:15:02 -0500
From: John.Craven@infores.com (John Craven)
Subject: re: barry black

     well, since there has been a lot of barry black talk out here lately 
     and i do have the CD, i am sort of begrudgingly making my first post, 
     in an effort to hopefully help those who are wondering about the CD on 
     which Ben and Darren contribute their talents.  the CD (which is 
     self-titled) is a good kind of jazzy, bluesy, dixie, piece of work, 
     it's mostly instrumental and it is chock-full-o-slammin-musicians, 
     including Eric Bachman(archers of loaf); there's also a vocalist on 
     track 5, Summer Burke, anyone know if this is Summer B?  anyway, i 
     found it to be a tough listen at first.  on the whole, there are few 
     vocals, and i tend to enjoy plush harmonies a la BF5 or Jellyfish -- 
     ya know, good CDs to sing along to in the car.  so, if you're not 
     independently wealthy, my recommendation on this one is to try to 
     listen before you buy...i like the CD, but not for the same reasons 
     that i like BF5...
     -jc

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:46:29 +1000
From: Rainy City <ad@healey.com.au>
Subject: Martin Place gig

One word.


   Absolutely, entirely, truely ruley wuley, magnificently, brilliantly EXCELLENT!!!!


   With a few adjectives thrown in for clarity.


Ad.  The boy whose recorder failed.



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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:26:10 PDT 
From: "Petra Starke" <naturalselection@hotmail.com>
Subject: one angry Australian and 200...something elses...

Bloody buggery...(for those of you who object to swearing, that's 
"Bother, darnit").....I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THE FIVE ON THE ARIAS!!! 
Goddammit....and do you know why I missed it? I had to study for a 
biology test! At least I got to hear them on the ladies' lounge, 
although that was a fairly lacklustre interview.

Not so cheerful today,

Petra

And now, food for thought: "Is biology essential for life?" (not in my 
book it isn't...)
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 03:23:46 PDT 
From: "Anna B" <annaleeb@hotmail.com>
Subject: BFF at Martin Place

Hello There Everyone on The Armchair!!!
        I have  just got to say that Ben Folds Five were the greatest at 
Martin Place today. Even though it was raining before, during and after 
the show, they really rocked the place out.
        Ben, Darren and Rob were so nice that they stayed back in the 
cold to sign my CD covers and also have a photo with me, as well as 
everyone else that were lucky enough to be there. Today is one of the 
best days in my life, even better than meeting superfish Scott Miller.
        Eversince I heard their CD 2 years ago I was hooked and now I 
play their CD's all the time. They are Legends!!!
        One question though. Where can I get piano music?? Please let me 
know.
        Just a very BIG THANK YOU to Ben Folds Five for coming to 
Australia. Sorry for the horrible weather.
        Can't wait 'till the Sydney Uni gig.
Anna

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 20:08:09 +0800 (WST)
From: Jodie Poole <jpoole@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: BFF on Aussie TV

Hey there!
	Just letting you guys know that BFF will appear on Midday with
Kerri-Anne on Wednesday.
  hmmmmm.... That should get all the housewives excited!!
Catcha!
Jodie
PS: Hope you all caught the guys on the Ladies Lounge on JJJ today - it
was awesome!

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 09:22:40 -0600
From: Tina Archer <EPA2324@epa.state.il.us>
Subject: Uncle Walter AND BOWCCL on MTV shows/Chicago show 10/30

Okay, I will admit it since there are two other brave souls who have had
the courage to go ahead of me (Dave and Kim).  Yes I heard Uncle Walter
on the Real World and they also played BOWCCL on Road Rules last
Monday.  AAUGH, but I feel better for baring my soul.  Elizabeth, MTV plus
plus Silk Stalkings. .  I am pitiful  : -)

Also about the Chicago show on 10/30. . tickets will probably go on sale
this Saturday through Ticketmaster.  However, its not confirmed.
(Sidenote:  I hate Ticketmaster, its too bad Pearl Jam gave up the fight.) 
Ticketmaster updates their site every Friday.  The Chicago Reader is also
on-line which is updated Thursday pm/Friday am which lists upcoming
events and when tix go on sale.  

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:36:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brad654@aol.com
Subject: Re: Duritz 

In a message dated 97-09-16 09:13:10 EDT, you write:

> I guess I just figured anyone who listens and enjoys BFF would also
> like the Crows.  

Well you'd be VERY wrong in that assumption.

> I've seen Counting Crows four times this year and I
> personally think they are the BEST live performers I have ever seen. >>

And I thought they were among the worst I've ever seen, and I've seen Guns
'N' Roses (and I tell you, it takes a lot to admit that).

Brad

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Denise N Hill <dnhst9+@pitt.edu>
Subject: One less slug on the planet

Hey to Mark Piper and the other folks he quoted about BF5 shirts and being
recognized...I had my 'cool in school' shirt on for about 5 minutes and
got noticed here at my campus (Pitt). I've never sported a band's tee and 
been returned with so much love and good karma. Bonus points for us
Fivers!

*still waiting patiently for my Reverb VHS, you in Washington know who you
are! :P*

N. Brie Rifka

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:18:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: JCannery@aol.com
Subject: cornell info 

      When I heard bff was going to be coming to cornell, i called my cousin
who teaches there and talked to him.  So far I know:  
  It'll probably be at a place called Bailey Hall, and tickets will be $14-16
for non-students and $10-12 for students, but they're not on sale yet.  Also,
it will probably be an any age show (yay!)  I'll post more info when I get
it.  Anyone from Albany NY going?  I'll be there, I just have to work out a
few details (like how to get there when it's 3 hours away, i'm 2 years short
of my drivers licsence, and it's on a school night.)
     Also, for those who are complaining BFF is not coming to their town:  I
can understand you, they're not coming to my town exactly either.  And then I
thought, what about the fans in Alaska and Hawaii?  I looked at Frank's
previous gigs page and found out that BFF has been to Hawaii only twice a long
 time ago, and that they've never been to Alaska.  So just be happy you're
not an Alaskan BFF fan.  
- --lindsay

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 16:19:19 -0400
From: Heather Hurwitz <hhurwitz@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: HELPHELPHELPHELPHELPHELP

PLEASE HELP ME GET TO A BF5 SHOW!!!!!
Hi everyone.  With school and everything I had somewhat neglected my
armchair reading, but I read the latest one, checked out Frank's site, and
sure enough.... the tour dates were announced!!!!  However, they are not
coming to the Washington DC area, to my chagrin.  I am originally from
Cleveland OH and they're playing there on Halloween!!!! I am so sad that I
will miss that awesome awesome awesome show!!!! :(  :( .  So, what I am
wondering is if anyone from around DC is going to the Philly or Pittsburgh
shows or any other shows and is going to be going through DC.  I have no
car.  I have very little money and so it is hard to take a train up to
Pitts. or Philly to see them.  I think those are the 2 closest to me.  So,
if there are any loving Virginia, Maryland, DC people out there that can
help me out, I would love you forever.  
PLEASE HELP ME GET TO A BF5 SHOW!!!!!
Thanks everyone.  Stay awesome.  Luv,  Heather 

"I think about my friends, sometimes I wish they lived out here, but they
wouldn't dig this town" -Ben Folds Five

get your fill of peanutts on the www:  http://www.cyberdrive.net/~percystar

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:39:42 -0400
From: jaedonely@juno.com (A A DONELY) 
Subject: real world stuff...

I do not have cable, so I was (sadly)
glued to the tv at my soccer teams pasta party.  We were watching the
real world and road rules.(Everybody on my team listens to rap) I could
place like every single little musical intro on each show, but when bff
came on(and i heard UNcle Walter and BOWCCL) I started getting really
excited and going,"do!DOdodododo!!"
A percentage of the girls on my team think im on drugs cos i like (some)
techno.
this drove them over the edge.:)
silly girls! Dont you know what a ben folds five is????

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:08:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: KarenB80@aol.com
Subject: I have a web address where you can order BFF singles 

I ordered 5 BFF singles online form SirenCD.  The address is
 http://sirencd.com/
From what I understand, they are pretty reliable.  They have the following
singles:

Kate (Part 2)  w/ "Mitchell Lane" and "All Shook Up"
One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces  w/ "Bad Idea" and "For All the Pretty
                  
                   People"
Underground (Part 1)  w/ live versions of "Satan Is My Master" and "Video"
Underground (Part 2)  w/ live versions of "Jackson Cannery" and "Underground"
Where's Summer B? w/ live versions of "Tom & Mary" and "Emaline"

All of these singles are only $9.99, which is pretty reasonable.  The
shipping is only $4.50.  I ordered all of them last week, and I haven't
gotten them yet, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Also, I'm intersted in info about the Chicago show on October 30.  All I know
about it is that it is at the Vic Theatre.  If you know anything else, let me
know.

Karen

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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:24:29 +1000 (EST)
From: Derek Scott <scoco@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Martin Place free concert! 

hi
just thought I'd say that the lunch time concert in Sydney yesterday was GREAT!
It was amazing to be less than 1m away from Ben and Robert, and to be able
to get signatures and photos afterwards, which is something I couldn't
expect from an actual concert. It was a bit disappointing that they only
played 5 songs, which lasted about 20 mins. The set was
One Angry Dwarf
Battle
Philosophy
Julianne
Underground
and then they went over to TripleJ and played very interesting versions of
Angry Dwarf and Song for the Dumped. 
So I guess that'll be the sum total of me seeing them in Australia. But it
was great anyway!!
C
PS I'll be getting photos developed and that for those who were there if you
need copies or anything.

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*                                      -Ginger Meggs, SMH *
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:49:35 -0400
From: Kerry <kgarvin@mindspring.com>
Subject: Underground and St. Petersburg Show

I went to a local record store recently, and came out happy for once.
As I flipped through the Ben Folds Five divider I found two import CD's
that I've never heard of (possibly since I haven't collected any BFF
imports/rarities)...they are: Ben Folds Five "Underground" Part 1 and 2
(both CDs).  I'm not really sure if this is such a rare find or what,
but I was just happy that there was a BFF section.  
The track listings are:
Underground Pt. 1:
1.) Underground (edit)
2.) Satan is My Master (live)
3.) Video (live)
Underground Pt. 2:
1.) Underground (full version)
2.) Jackson Cannery (live)
3.) Underground (live)
They're both made in England on Caroline Records.  Well, I guess that's
all - if you have any comments/questions about these or own them, feel
free to comment.

One more thing, thanks to the couple of people that e-mailed me because
they are going to the October 23rd show in St. Petersburg at the State
Theatre (counting down the days).  If you'd like to get in contact with
each other just e-mail me or the list and maybe we could all set
something up.  And it's nice knowing there are some fellow
Armcharians/Helmet Heads in south Florida.

Take care all and best wishes,
Kerry
http://www.mindspring.com/~kgarvin

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:42:57 -0600
From: Jennifer Lupton Delamar <47km67nb@coastalnet.com>
Subject: Oh NO!

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Calculus class KNOWING what songs I am talking of so long ago?  I think =
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