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The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #580 - November 3, 1997



Magical Armchair Digest    Monday, November 3 1997    Volume 01 : Number 580



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    Why I like BFF
    don't know John Lee Hooker
    lyndiesongbook
    monkey!
    Another BFF music story
    Ypsilanti
    Trains planes and Answerphones
    RE  : Great Bands of Our Time
    The best damn show i've ever seen!
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #574
    My First Show!
    10/30/97-- Chicago.
    THE SECRETS OF BHAGAVED GITA REVEALED!!!!!
    No, No, I'm NOT stereotyping teenagers!!!

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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:41:35 -0500
From: jaedonely@juno.com (A A DONELY) 
Subject: Why I like BFF

Sometimes when Im in theology class and Im getting really annoyed with my
teacher, I quietly sing to myself..."Kiss my ass....sister Joanne"
and when I fight with my mom, I go,"well, fuck you too!"
Its so satisfying.
I love Ben Folds.
~Elisabeth
"Fox Force Five? Because we're all foxes, we're a force to be reckoned
with, and there's five of us.  I was the one with all the knives."
"She's not a housekeeper, her name's Inez."
 -" And my names Dignan, man, so what?"
!Im the illest mofo from here to Gardenia!

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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:55:37 -0700
From: times@bordercity.com (Lloydminster Times)
Subject: don't know John Lee Hooker

Don't know "Boom Boom Boom" by John Lee Hooker like Pluvius suggested but I
would love to hear them play "Boom Boom Boom Let's Go Back To My Room."

Daniel
Lloydminster

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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:02:41 EST
From: mystry1616@juno.com (C M) 
Subject: lyndiesongbook

Lyndie,
don't feel too bad about the songbook.  I had the completely awesome
chance of talking to Ben after a concert 2 weeks ago and asked him about
the songbook being permanently out of stock, and he said that they hadn't
expected a big demand, and the music was transcripted by some guys in
Japan who added in a lot of implied notes and unnecessary things that
just made the music more complicated than it is while making it sound
like baby stuff.  They are coming out with one for the second album soon
that he said would be MUCH better and to wait for that one.  So. yeah,
straight from Ben's mouth! (almost)  bye!!
christy

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 00:50:03 EST 
From: "Carleton Hsing" 
Subject: monkey!

     Yes, Ben Folds Five is indeed mentioned in a Counting Crows song.  
The song is "Monkey," and it's on the Recovering The Satellites album.  
The line is: "got no place but home to go, got Ben Folds on my radio, 
right now."  So anyone who called Counting Crows sell outs eat your 
words! :-)
     So a disc of rarities is due out in January, apparently?  Sounds 
great.  Are there going to be any live tracks, possibly?  I hope so.  
I've never even heard BFF live, I know, what's wrong with me.  I will 
soon though...should be getting some boots. :-)  I think they should 
release some live stuff on disc though, that'd be awesome. :-)
     So who else from the Magical Armchair is on ICQ?  I've already 
talked to Anna and Sarah and Claire on ICQ, all Aussies, and I love you 
all. :-) Anyone else on?  Add me to your list if you are.
     Well, I've got to go, talk to you later, bye bye. :-)

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 02:11:23 -0500
From: Ramsay 
Subject: Another BFF music story

Since everyone seems to like posting unusual places where they heard Ben
Folds (i.e. the grocery store,among others), I'll post mine. I was in
Structure at an American institution of commercialism (the mall) and
they were playing some not so typical store music. I heard some Liz
Phair (hmmm, not bad, but...), then I heard some Counting Crows
(hey,weird, don't usually hear this here), then I hear....KATE! I was
rather surprised to hear that. I have much more respect for the
Structure chain now. Made my shoppingexperience much better. Thought I'd
get in on the fun of telling stories. 

If anyone on the list is going to the Chapel Hill show, email me
and let me know. Maybe we could meet before/after/during the show. 'til
then....

Ramsay
r_huntle@eos.ncsu.edu
- -- 
"See I've got your old I.D.
And you're all dressed up like the CURE"
			-- Ben Folds

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 04:53:07 EST 
From: sandishortcake@juno.com
Subject: Ypsilanti

Just got back from Ypsi (and it's almost 5am)...the show was great.  I'm
sure someone will post a big long review, so I suppose I shouldn't take
up space now.  But it was really great.  They  played "Best Imitation"
with piano (not the a cappella version) per my request...I asked Ben
after the Cleveland show and was very specific that I would like to hear
the piano version.  So that was really cool.  Ben  played some slow,
jazzy version of "Sexy Mutha Fucker".  The crowd for the Ypsi show was
MUCH better than the Cleveland crowd...not as many REALLY young girls
asking me to move so they could see or trying to elbow their way in front
of me.

Ahhh, time for bed.

Hello to all those Armchairites that I met...(HI ERIC PATTON!)

- -Sandi

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 14:21:09
From: M******* 
Subject: Trains planes and Answerphones

Just some pointless bits of info that i was really excited about:

1) My best mate's brother Paul went to London recently and stayed with his
aunt (in Pulp's old flat, incidentally) ... while he was there, BEN FOLDS
phoned up and left a message on the answerphone!!! (he knows Paul's aunt's
flatmate, apparently)... so Paul could have spoken to the Ben Folds
himself.... but being a teenage boy, it's probably best that he didn't... :^)

I know this will seem really trivial to all you armchairians who are like,
best friends with Ben, but it's exciting for me, oK?!

2) I went to Cornwall last week with a load of people i didn't know.... i
got talking about music with this lad Ben, and i thought, he's quite nice,
shame he's probably never heard of BF5... when suddenly he goes, 'I've just
bought the Ben Folds Five CD!'  And i'm like, WOW, 'I'm a MASSIVE fan', and
i fell in love with him... (but he's got a girlfriend, grr...) (sorry)

3) Once i had a dream that i was meeting this bloke Nick (an e-mail friend
who i had never met, but went to V97 with!) and he was actually Ben Folds!
hmm...

well, sorry for using up armchair space, but BIG HUGS (a la Teletubbies) to
everyone who sent in tabs and stuff... cheers!!

~~~~@nna~~~~ 

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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:33:22 -0000
From: "Kam" 
Subject: RE  : Great Bands of Our Time

Hello Armchair Viewers : 

Ben Folds Five are indeed a class band, 
and I love them to bits, but lets also 
talk about other great bands .
I would have to say BFF come second
 to the mighty Radiohead !! 

Anyone have details of when new / more BFF stuff
is coming out in England 

Does anyone know any other bands like / or
in the style of BFF as Im really gettin'
in to it.

Cheers Have Fun

Kam

PS : 	The Bends is way better than Pablo Honey,
	and OK Computer is better than everything

"Faith in the Lord is somthing 
I could never have, cause
the Lord don't Have no God
damn faith in me. " 



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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 20:58:47 -0500
From: Vito Biliti 
Subject: The best damn show i've ever seen!

I'm sorry to make everyone read this, but last nights concert (Ypsilanti,
MI) was WAY to good to pass up a post to the Armchair.
It all started with this band who had a girl singing, an electric violin,
and some people dressed like someone had died.  Who the hell were they???!
Then Verbow came out, who I thought were pretty good (with the exception of
that [electric] bass player)...
Anyway, Bf5 soon came out and started with Missing the War. Then they
played Battle of WCCL, Best imitation, Dr. Pyser, Last Polka i think, then
everything else BUT Evaporated, boxing, video!!!, Where's Summer B?, Alice,
Sports & Wine, Uncle Walt, and SONG FOR THE DUMPED!!! which made me very
angry!!!  Anyway, Ben and his crew were HILARIOUS!!! About half way through
the show Ben said something about how he thought that he was the sexiest
motherfucker around, until he found out that robert was the sexiest
motherfucker.  This only made him play a little song; the lyrics went
something like this:
  Sexy Motherfucker,
  Sexy Motherfucker, you're mine,
  Sexy Motherfucker, you're so fine.
That's all I can remember, but It was FUNNY! It was actually a pretty
catchy tune.
The other main highlight was the intro to underground.  Darren took the
spotlight and did a little Opera rendition of "I was never cool..." Then
Robert started his part, but he couldn't fininh it. He turned to Darren and
yelled, "Darren, Gimme a beat box." So Darren starts rapping into the
microphone while rob does this "Throw yo' hands in the air... Wave yo'
hands to the Underground jams" type of thing.  Then he rapped his line,
fanny pack style.  Then the mic turned to Ben who did his line seriously,
very dorky!  Underground started up, and finished the show. They played two
encores: She Don't Use Jelly, and... and... I FORGET!! I was too tripped up
on that Ben Folds Five natural high-- If you've ever seen 'em live, you
know the feeling.  Anyway, I don't see how any show, including recent BF5
shows could have been any better than this one.  BF5 ROCKED THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for the long post,
Vito
"When seconds pass slowly, and years go flyin' by"

True fact- Did you know that there are more people living today, than the #
of people that have ever died.

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 14:21:28 GMT
From: "Mark Piper" 
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #574

Aaron posted: (with regards the new CD)..
>All of my info came from my interview with Darren last month, so 
>there might be more news out there.

The CD will be title "Naked Baby Photos" and will *NOT* feature the 
B-Sides (NEWS FLASH!: Record Company In Considerate CD Release 
Shocker!), but will feature unreleased studio tracks and live tracks. 
Cheers to Frank Davis at Caroline for the information.

the bokk (?!) wrote:
>So in conclusion....I would be very appreciative to 
>anyone who has the lyrics to the songs (mainly emeline) on the 
>single.     By the way.....what other songs are on that single???    

AND Mis wrote:
>Does anybody have/know the lyrics to Mitchell Lane??  I looked on 
>Frank's homepage and couldn't find them anywhere.  Can anyone help??


Hey, Frank isn't the only one with a BFF page!!! ;) Try my homepage 
at 

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5430/bff.html


bokk: The WSB single also includes "Emaline" and "Tom & Mary" (the 
lyrics to which are on...oh, you know....)

Mark (I use tangerines)

ps.  Distraught to see Bill Berry leave R.E.M., but let's hope it 
signals a new start for the band....


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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:33:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Patton 
Subject: My First Show!

	Okay, all I can say is WOW. I was at the Ypsi show with a bunch of
my friends. I fell in love with Kim Fox (a red-head musician, what more do
I need?), chilled out to Verbow, and was semi-patiently awaiting the Boys.
During Verbow, I saw a couple people up front dancing (no one else in the
place was, and it was a sit-dwon show) and said to myself, "Self, I have
to go talk to those people." Myself concurred, woke Me up from my almost
zen-like trance of obliviousness (oddly enough, I was appallingly sober.
Who woulda thought?) and moved down after Verbow finished. I get there,
and who should I find there but the lovely Sandi Shortcake! ;) We talked,
I hung out with her and her friends, and we got right up to the stage.
Some guy from local radio tried to get the people in front to go back to
their seats. It was utterly laughable. Stayed up there the entire time,
dancing my fool head off, singing maniacally, and having the best time
I've ever had without being intoxicated or naked. ;) I did offer to be
Ben's best friend if they played Evaporated, but no dice. Ah well. They
did play Best Imitation for Sandi, though. Guess I need to start hounding
them around the country too. ;) Anyway, I had a blast, except for one
thing. The very cute girl who I was dancing with the entire evening turned
out to be a high school student. *sigh* Such is life. ;) Anyway, I just
needed to get that out. I'm definitely going the next time they're in the
area. And since my birthday IS in Febuary, I know what I'm asking for this
year, ;) Laters!

ERIC

P.S. Oh yeah. One last thing. JOYGASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No
posting is complete without one. ;)
_______________________________________________________________________________
	"But if that's a lie, if man in fact is not a scoundrel -in
general, that is, the whole human race- then the rest is all mere
prejudice, instilled fear, and there are no barriers, and that's just how
it should be!"
				-Raskolnikov, "Crime and Punishment"
_______________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:43:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "Scott A. Schneider" 
Subject: 10/30/97-- Chicago.

Things to say about the concert:

- --This was the largest venue I've ever been for a concert of theirs.  It 
seemed strange to have so many people... and the balcony seating (and the 
fact that the entire place was non-standing) seemed like they were 
playing at an ice arena.  On the good side, the sound quality was pretty 
darned good.

- --Hmm... their set list this time around was average.  They didn't really 
make up any of those fun spontaneous songs (with the possible exception 
of Robert's little "disco diva" ditty)... so that was upsetting.  They 
didn't play Emaline or Uncle Walter... damn.  And one time when Ben threw 
his stool at the piano, he missed.  That was kind of funny.

- --Driving 5 hours to Chicago ot see them was a LONGfrickin' drive... 
especially the 5 hour trip back home at 2 in the morning... yikes.  But 
it was worth it overall (as you can expect).

- --Overall: 8/10.  Their other concerts seemed to have more "energy" (if 
that's the proper word)... but it's still Ben Folds Five, so you still 
can't go wrong.

scott

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:46:08 -0600
From: "Matthew Pekarek" 
Subject: THE SECRETS OF BHAGAVED GITA REVEALED!!!!!

Hi all! Because of a little informal investigation, I finally found out
what the hell Bhagaved Gita is. 

	Since Bhagaved Gita sounds Jewish and because of Ben Folds Five's close
connection to Judaism (Klezmatics, etc.), I asked my informal source on all
things Jewish, my manager at Starbucks. I asked him after work, and to my
surprise, it is not Jewish at all. Actually, it's a Buddhist text, like the
Bible or the Torah. Maybe Kate is a Hare Kirishna? Oh well! The question
had been bugging me for weeks and I needed to know the answer. Just thought
I should share!

If this has already been revealed, please don't flame me. I'm still reeling
from the fact that the First Avenue BFF show is 21+. I hate being 17! :-)

See ya!

Matt

"Nice guys finish last, no one knows as good as me."
           -The Descendants  "I'm the One" 

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 11:58:25 -0600
From: Dan Mauer 
Subject: No, No, I'm NOT stereotyping teenagers!!!

Natassja wrote:
> yes, im 16, but please, dan, and all others, do not stereo type us teenagers.
> i agree with you completely that alot of the people were there cause "it was
> cool"  they are now on the infomous "Q101" (the alternative station in
> chicago) and so all the little poser people were there---but please, realize,
> that there are some ypung fans out here that adore BFF, and have for years,
> and its completely hypocritical to blame the extra noise on all the
> "kids"--actually, it sort of pisses me off, dan, but i agree with you about
> the point that you wished it hadnt become sorta popular, because its a downer
> for me--i dont want bff to be just some band people listen to to be cool, bff
> is sacred to me--but please dont dump on us teenagers.

OK, here's the deal.  I'm *NOT* *NOT* *NOT* badmouthing teenagers in any
way, shape or form.  Many people at the show of all ages were there
because they love the music and they wanted to see the show, which I'm
totally in favor of whether they be 12 years old or 60.  Who I *WAS*
railing on were the people who were very obviously there for one song
and who did NOT respect the fact that there were people there who wanted
to hear the rest of the show... and, sterotypically or not, the vast
majority of people who fit that category are young teenagers and college
frat-boy types (the ones I mentioned in my post). I'm even completely in
favor of people who just heard Brick on the radio and checked out the
show 'cuz they loved that song, and who WERE respectful enough to not
loudly chatter during the quiet stuff that all of us really wanted to
hear.  Hey, I'm still a teenager -- for a few more months, at any rate
- -- and I like to think that I've been a fairly serious fan of music
since I was around 15 or so, and I know people who've been as such since
they were quite a bit younger, even.  I just hate when people don't
respect that some folks at the concert AREN'T there just to hear one
song, and therefore will NOT be amused at louder-than-the-music chatter
and making fun of the band and so forth.

So anyways, the long and short of it - I have nothing against any of
BFF's fans, regardless of whether they're really young, really old, or
even if they're a drunken fratboy... so long as they respect the other
fans.  My problem was that so damn many of them did not... I only
mentioned those two specific types because they comprised the massive
majority of obnoxious people.

But hell, it was a great show nonetheless. :)

- -dan.

P.S... Natassja, I'm bummed I missed you at the show -- it took us half
a friggin' hour to park (lesson: TAKE THE CTA IF NEARING BELMONT!!!),
and I didn't make it to the box office til 7:20... and did not see you,
so I assume you were long gone.  Perhaps some other time. :)

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