THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #691 - December 9, 1997
Magical Armchair Digest Tuesday, December 9 1997 Volume 01 : Number 691
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
Children...
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #685
You know....
Youth: Rock and Roll
me and Ben Folds Five
BFF at Pollstar
Brick single, Japanese boot
Old Farts
(no subject)
Boston bootleg
A Holiday Treat!
The Trials and Tribulations of 'Chairies
Selling out and pre-release of NBF...
These rules and such
re: bf5 getting big..
Re: BFF Interactive CD/CD Extra in Australia
Exciting new service
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:31:26 -0500 (EST)
From: marc s kaplan <mkap@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Children...
You Wrote:
<the jailbait at the shows just looooove to talk ALL THROUGH THE
>DAMN
>SONGS
>about how cute the lead singer of "travis" is. let's leave it at this,
and
>then we shall never speak of this again: Please, if you MUST come to the
>shows
>(y'know, have your parents drive you....), listen to the music and quit
>pushing my legs into the stage, as to cut off the circulation. Please
>don't
>blow smoke in my face while attempting to look cool. Please don't tell me
>about your life; I don't care.
Mabye you should get angry with a person or grop people, instead of
getting angry at a generation. I'm sure that there are young people who
have respect for the music, just as there are old people that have no
respect for the music. Mabye its not the kids who are being immature
(e.g. you are--read you post).
I am 19, but I can remember when I was younger people wanted to lump me in
a generation, or a group and I refuse to willingly be herded!!
Its much better to be young optimistic and enegertic, then to be old
crabby and bitter!!!!!!
-/\/\arc
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 09:32:30 -0500
From: "Lance E. Johnson" <lajohns4@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #685
Hi, all!
I'm a little late with this post on the D.C. show, so I'll keep it quite
brief: great show, incredible auditorium, and I finally got a "Farewell
Tour 1981" t-shirt. The Lexington, Virginia show that I caught at W&L is
still my favorite out of three, but that's because there were only a
handful of people there and I sat on the front of the stage for the show.
Nice to meet Josh (nice guy!) and Heather (quite fetching!) at the show.
Pretty cool to meet people from the Armchair -- especially the ones who
know what it's for!
Later!
Lance
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 11:12:37 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: You know....
man, was i shocked to see that after 4 days my box was innundated with 7
MA's. All about the same old shit. "wah wah what's so wrong with me being
13?" "boo hoo i don't want BFF to be big"etc....EVERYONE IS REPEATING
THEMSELVES!! i don't think people are reading what everyone else has to
say. this is getting depressing. no matter what we say on here it's not
going to change ANYTHING. all of this text is just opinion. fine fine have
your f'n first ammendment but GEEZ it makes me dizzy to scroll through this
stuff. the only thing i LEARNED from the last 7 issues was that BFF was
going to be on SNL on Jan 10 and the georgetown show was good. How about we
all talk about something else? everything existing is getting stale.
how about this: If ben isn't gay, how come he wants to BE kate? ;)
jess
"All the boys are monsters;
All the girls are whores.
But when you lose the one you love,
There's always plenty more."
-Squirrel Nut Zippers
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:38:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Nate Mathews <nmathews@mork.uni.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Youth: Rock and Roll
Ok, the thing about young people is that they're the future of
rock and roll(despite what the Rolling Stones would have you believe). They
are what rock is all about. Oftentimes they do stupid
things or screw up or don't "appreciate" the finer things in music, but
such is life. Rock and roll has and always will be about youth, its the nature
of the beast. So if you're not into teenyboppers, lighten up; You're
getting to old.
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Cross Country: Finally a practical use for golf courses
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 10:26:19 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: me and Ben Folds Five
this is in response to "Tidal Wave"'s post.
I think the BFF song most about my life is "Mitchell lane" i kinda joked in
a previous post that Ben wrote it for me.
I could go over every line and explain how it is like my life, but it would
be like "sunshine is a miss...yeah that's me" etc...anyway, "Mitchell lane"
is not only a beautiful song, but it's about my life. A ton of their other
songs (well, MOST of them) can be applied to ME, and i just walk around and
sing them to myself all the time. la la la
jess
"All the boys are monsters;
All the girls are whores.
But when you lose the one you love,
There's always plenty more."
-Squirrel Nut Zippers
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:30:05 -0500
From: Kerry Garvin <kgarvin@mindspring.com>
Subject: BFF at Pollstar
Went to Pollstar (concert listing) and found this on the main page...how
much things have changed within the past month...amazing. - Kerry
PUNK ROCK FOR SISSIES
Ben Folds Five is a trio. The band's centerpiece is a
piano. There is no guitar. But the band members think
they've got a rock band going here. And in complete
defiance of rock 'n' roll convention, they are right. The
three-man Five rocks loud and hard. Piano-playing
frontman Ben Folds jokes that his band plays Punk Rock
for Sissies, but their songs definitely kick ass. In order
to convey the arena rock star that lurks within him,
Folds pounds furiously on his instrument, leaps up on
the piano and has been knows to dive headfirst into the
keyboard. He likes pain, really — just listen to the lyrics.
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:36:08 -0500
From: Richard Challen <rchallen@clemson.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Brick single, Japanese boot
For those who care (less?):
The import Japanese "Brick" single has 5 songs... "Brick," of course,
then a GREAT live version of "Smoke" from the "Morning Becomes Eclectic"
public radio show. (This is the same taping where they did "Alice,"
which appears on the RARE ON AIR VOL. 3 compilation and now NAKED BABY
PHOTOS.) Then there's remixes of "Kate" and "Fair" from WAEA with a
STRING SECTION added... cool, but a little disconcerting. And we wrap up
with "Mitchell Lane," which was also on the "Kate" import single... but
still a nice melancholy song nonetheless.
Is it a worthy single? Yes... esp. since you get lyrics to all the
songs in English AND Japanese! Is it worth $20 plus tax? Ummm... that
depends on your level of dedication, sir. What I want to know is:
How do you get a copy of that double-CD Japanese boot? And if you do,
how much will it cost? And is it worth it, or is it just a shitty
audience recording? Just curious.
Take care and please let the minors live,
rICH
Visit The RICH Homepage and check out the brand-new CD,
LIFE/DEATH... 15 songs of romance and retribution...
Available independently from Desperate Man Records.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/9035
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 06:04:11 +1100
From: michael <michaelb@coolgold.com.au>
Subject: Old Farts
To all you whinging wallys.
Ben wrote Uncle Walter about people like you .
If you go to a live show you get what you get .
Some people are rude! You'll never change that.
Young people will always behave like young people
(I hope).
If you step out your front door and expect to
remain untouched by reality then your life is a sad
illusion.
If you can't handle the real world then stay at
home in your bloody armchair and complain to your
poodle.I'm sure it's sick of you too
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:23:10 -0500
From: alan cohen <alan.cohen@sylvania.sev.org>
Subject: (no subject)
unsubscribe
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 15:42:32 EST
From: luckyday6@juno.com (Jason A Masi)
Subject: Boston bootleg
Lots of people have been asking me what's on my Boston bootleg so here
are all the songs:
Ben Folds Five 11/04/97 Boston, MA "The Roxy"
Missing the War
Battle of Who Could Careless
Philosophy
Selfless, Cold, & Composed
Dr. Physer
Last Polka
Steven's Last Night in Town
Fair Brick
Jackson Cannery
One Angry Dwarf
Best Imitiation of Myself
Smoke
Julianne
Underground
She Doesn't Use Jelly
Song for the Dumped
this is an awesome bootleg so e-mail me if u want it.
thanks
Jason
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 15:04:44 -0600
From: "Erik C. Lyons" <EPA8820@epa.state.il.us>
Subject: A Holiday Treat!
http://members.tripod.com/~elyons/ben_menu.htm
Then click on "A Holiday Greeting from the guys."
I gotta tell ya. The preceding page was completely inspired by Amanda!
Thank you so much for sending me the holiday shots of the guys. I am just
glad I found something to do with them. . .
So here goes:
thanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanks
AMANDA. . .you my friend, rule!
- -E
And you can see the daisies in her footsteps, dandelions, butterfies
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:07:12 -0500
From: Anne Lyons <westlyon@ultranet.com>
Subject: The Trials and Tribulations of 'Chairies
Hello the 'Chair!
*Sigh* As I sit here huddled under my afghan, typing away at my Apple IIe,
ignoring the incessant arthritis to get this little note out, I am shaking
my head at all the vitriolic spew on the 'Chair of late. Apparently, a
bunch of angry young men (& women) felt the need to put all us grandmas and
grandpas in our places. Well, bless my pacemaker, aren't we all in a tizzy,
now!
Unfortunately for all you younger folks who probably feel that I should
have been Kevorkianized long ago, I feel compelled to give you my
uninformed, completely biased opinion. And dammit, I will also drive real
slow in the ultrafast lane, slouching down in my seat, wearing those
wraparound shades while my blinker goes off incessantly if I want to.
ANYWAY... personally I don't think that this issue is Old vs. Young -- I
think it is a Considerate vs. Rude issue. Whether you are thirteen or
thirty-five, you have the right to do whatever the hell you want to, but
you do not have the right to make me like it. Translation: You have the
right to get your concert goer's high* by getting a running start and then
slamming into people who are just standing there (as opposed to people who
are doing the same to you), but at that same time, you have also earned the
right to get an elbow in a delicate part of your anatomy. [As an aside: if
the guy who I "accidently" elbowed at the Great Woods HORDE is on this
list... this message is for you: "Oops! Sorry."]
And to all : Respect is a two way street, people. And I respect all of you,
young or old, short or tall, dark or light, male or female, yin or yang...
(yup, it's a virtual orgy or respect!) It truly amazes me how rude this
list is at times. I was laughing so hard as I read the weekend's supply of
Armchairs -- all these people were screaming tensely at each other to
loosen up. It's just too funny when you think about it. I mean, can't we
all just get along? After all, I'm a homosapien like you...
Oh... and one more thing. To the person who wrote: "seat the big fat people
in the back" -- What is this? Pick on the fat kid day? First the old are
silenced, then the fat, next it will be the lame and infirm, and soon after
that it will be the geeks, the sluts, the vertically-challenged, the
non-musicians, the fetishists, the Floridians, the coffee drinkers, the
lactose-intolerant, and so on down the line, until the only person left
whose opinion is valid will be some girl named Francesca from Gary,
Indiana. So let's not go there, alright? We can all agree to disagree,
can't we?
So anyway, that's all my rambling for now... so could you hand me my ball
of yarn, sonny? It seems to have rolled under your chair.
Have a great day!
- -Anne
* similar to a runner's high, but a heckuva lot more fun.
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:04:22 EST
From: BenFolds J <BenFoldsJ@aol.com>
Subject: Selling out and pre-release of NBF...
Hey there Armchairers,
Your ole pal Jordano here tellin' ya little pointless things about little
pointless topics. First, on the selling out part. I don't think they'll
survive because BFF belongs in a club. Tell me, what the hell would they sound
like outdoors in a huge ampitheatre?! They BELONG in clubs and intimate areas;
that's their home! I saw them at Atlanta's Music Midtown, which was an outdoor
festival, and I hate to say it, but in the scorching heat and pot infested
crowd, I noticed something -- they sounded like ass. Then I saw them at the
Roxy here in Atlanta, and they were awesome. So I don't think they'll have the
same popularity in big time concerts as they do on the radio. If you get my
drift here, you'll understand.
Oh yeah, I got a pre-release of NBF from the local radio station
(connections), and I must say kudos to Caleb and the boys for mixing together
such a great disc. As for the artwork -- you'll just have to wait and see it
yourself. :P
~Jordan
"I wish I hadn't bought you dinner right before you dumped me on your front
porch!"
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:15:14 EST
From: KNULPREK <KNULPREK@aol.com>
Subject: These rules and such
Hey. Well, i've been kinda busy lately and didn't have time to sift through
all the digests, and just started reading them again at #685, and i'm noticing
all these references to these rules for concertgoing and whatever.. so, if
possible, could someone send those to me, or repost them, or something?
Thanks!
- -jason-
http://members.aol.com/knulprek/home.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:15:10 EST
From: KNULPREK <KNULPREK@aol.com>
Subject: re: bf5 getting big..
Well, i completly agree. It's happened to many a band, and despite how cool
the band members are, there's nothing they can do about a random influx of
thousands of people. And i've still yet to see bf5 live, due to an incredibly
annoying circumstance last time they came down (which was $22 bucks anyway..
can you say "asshole booking agency?"), and i really don't want to have my
first time.. or any time.. in the nosebleeds of the Miami Arena.. ya know?
- -jason-
http://members.aol.com/knulprek/home.html
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:47:01 PST
From: "Cheryl ." <chezza@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: BFF Interactive CD/CD Extra in Australia
Oh bugger bugger bugger. It's not enough that we have to pay $30 for a
CD as opposed to the $10 in America, but we also get a dodgy version.
Would it make a difference if we imported one from somewhere like CDNow?
>
>Once again, we Aussie's miss out :}}
>
>Just got the offical word, the Australian pressing of the CD does not
contain
>the multisession/CDExtra data required for this baby to work :{
>
>This can can be confirmed by going into 'My Computer', right clicking
your CD
>icon, and selecting 'Explore' to see the information contained on the
CD. <sob>
>No interactive data, just the audio tracks. :{{{ If you don't have
Win95, see
>http://www.cdextra.com/setup2.html for info.
>
>I have contacted Sony Australia in the hope of obtaining the CD with
the CDExtra
>multisession data. Any US patrons with access to a CD-R willing to
copy/make
>and post a copy over to OZ should Sony Australia prove unfruitful??
>
>{Un-}Cheers,
>- Jason
>
>--
>
>Jason Allen <mailto:jallen@pobox.com>
>Phone: 0419 34 35 88 (+61 419 343 588)
>ICQ UIN=1533700
>
>"You give little when you give of your possessions.
> It is when you give of yourself that you truly give"
> - Kahlil Gibran
>
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:10:00 -0600
From: "Erik C. Lyons" <EPA8820@epa.state.il.us>
Subject: Exciting new service
I have just installed the AOL instant messenger on my puter at work. I use
AOL at home so I know how the service works. What is great, is now I am
connected during the day non-stop through my LAN. So my point is this: if
anyone wants to chat for a few about BF5 or anything, light me up! My
screen name is: erikman2
Sorry for the ramblings. But I LOVE this technology!
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