THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR

The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #782 - January 26, 1998



Magical Armchair Digest    Monday, January 26 1998    Volume 01 : Number 782



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    tapes
    mitchell lane
    hansen????????!!!!!!!!
    "Bad Idea"
    Infectivity
    re: what's a brick?
    re: WEAEA and ben's age
    Say It ani't so
    Massachusetts(Not BF5)
    other obsessions
    self-imposed rumor control
    Die hard fans, of the Sp*ce G*rls
    Spice Girls
    NYC SEATING ARANGEMENTS! 
    Brick meaning ;)
    ???
    Spice Girls Opening for Ben Folds Five? Nope
    WAEA

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:05:50 -0500
From: Deliciously Saucy <bensonsa@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: tapes

Does anyone happen to have a tape of the November 1,1997 BFF show in Ypsilanti?  I don't have any tapes to trade, but I have no problem paying.  Email me if you can help me out!!

sarah

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:24:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: ER Burningham <u7g83@ugg.keele.ac.uk> 
Subject: mitchell lane

sorryb for being dense, but has mitchell lane been released in the uk, or
rocky even??? i haven't heard either of them. nbp is so excellent, i've
played it millionnsof times already.... someone asked for advice on meeting
the guys- me& a mate went ot see them at the manchester gig in december &
just hung around outside for a while, then had  a quite bizzarre
conversation with them - we managed to make ben talk in a  cockney accent -
it was most amusing.... 
anyway
that's enough of that

mad bff obsessed em

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:35:32 +0000 (GMT)
From: ER Burningham <u7g83@ugg.keele.ac.uk> 
Subject: hansen????????!!!!!!!!

no, you can't be serious - compare bff - who are excellent - with hansen who
are bltaently girls who don't know what they're singing about??? -
aaaaaargh!
sorry, had to get that out of my system!
by the way, i'm sure the spice girls were around before march 1997 - weren't
they christmas no. 1 here in the uk in 1996. i have no idea. but it seems
likely.
bye

<<everyone's pretending not to hear them knocking at the door.....>>
love
mad em

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:41:05 -0600
From: Kimberly Southern <ks0013@drake.edu>
Subject: "Bad Idea"

O.k, I'm Kim Southern.  College student in Iowa at Drake University in Des
Moines (freaking cold here).  Saw BFF at HORDE this summer in Denver...they rocked
the festival as the best act there....and I was about 50 feet away from the men. 


Someone asked what soundtrack "Bad Idea" can be found on. It is on the "Truth
About Cats and Dogs" soundtrack.  I'm a DJ for my college radio station, and I
happened upon that little treasure one evening.

I also wanted to express my dismay when I found out that BFF would only get as
close as Chicago on this tour.  Being in Iowa, and being a college student, I
couldn't really afford to drive 5 hours one way...but the concert is sold out now,
so I don't have any hope of seeing it. I wish the boys would come do a college
tour.  But, that is only the jabbering of a poor undergrad.  

Enjoy the concerts, those who are lucky enough to see them.

Kim S.

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:11:58 -0500
From: "idaho" <idaho@appstate.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Infectivity

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:19:48 GMT
From: Jordan Erenrich <erenrich@mail.geocities.com>
Subject: re: what's a brick?

>here's what i think about what the reference to "she's a
>brick" is: okay, she's drowning,or more probably sinking into depression,  
>just like a brick dropped into the water
>would sink. make sense? of course i'm totally open to other
>interpretations.
>
>- -joe miller.

I gotta agree with Joe. Also, I think "he is drowning slowly" because he is
holding onto her.

I think the "brick" is his girlfriend, but couldn't it also be the unborn
baby? The baby is just kind of weighing everyone down, without reallying
doing anything.
- --
Jordan Erenrich
 erenrich@geocities.com

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:20:06 GMT
From: Jordan Erenrich <erenrich@mail.geocities.com>
Subject: re: WEAEA and ben's age

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:26:44 EST
From: Mystic1879 <Mystic1879@aol.com>
Subject: WEAEA and ben's age

[flame snipped out]

>I am not trying to put you down in any
>fashion, but if you were a die hard fan, you would have known that .  

She never said she was a die hard fan.

>As for ben's age I used to know it, but it has never been of any great
>importance to me, so I just forgot it.  

I am not trying to put you down in any fashion, but if you were a die hard
fan, you would have known that .  
- --
Jordan Erenrich
 erenrich@geocities.com

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:25:30 -0500
From: "idaho" <idaho@appstate.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Say It ani't so

So far I have listened to NBP in a delirious state and haven't bothered to
dig out details.  I heard Ben make the Spice Girls reference, but I thought
that it was a joke covering the recent and strange success of the Spice
Girls.  The guy who posted the message last time is right though.  By my
recconing (and I must admit that I can come up with only general time at
best) the Spice Girls didn't begin their big success in the US until early
1997 and the track is labeled as 1996.  However, they were big in the UK
long before though.  I really hope that Ben and the boys picked up on this
strange fad while overseas and were simply making jokes the islanders would
understand.  Please tell me that they didn't play as an opening band for
BFF.  Actually, what a laugh that would be.

Bryan

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:55:39 -0700
From: plpalmer@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Massachusetts(Not BF5)

I'm a DAT taper who would like to spin some analog or DAT copies of BF5
shows for the Massachusetts resident who can find some out of print CDs
by a Massachusetts band called the Nields.

The Cd's are Live At The Iron Horse and 66 Hoxsey Street and the only
way to get them would be while you are browsing the local used Cd
stores.

Peter

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:38:20 EST
From: GrnEgNham <GrnEgNham@aol.com>
Subject: other obsessions

Hey Fivers,
  I was just thinking how full my box gets every day with just this listserve
when the thought dawned on me that people might be subscribed to tons.  So,
what other listserves are you subscribed to?  Are they better than this one?
Compare s.v.p.  Merci. :-)

  Emily :-)

P.S.  This is taking a big chance but is anyone out there from SOLON, Ohio?  I
could use your help.  E-mail me please. Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:14:51 
From: "Hannah Kuhlmann" <kuhl0025@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: self-imposed rumor control

OK, I flipped when I heard "Fear of Pop" mentioned on the radio, and posted 
right away.  Well, then I went to the CD store, and they'd never heard of 
"Fear of Pop." They had plenty of BFF, though, even multiple copies of NBP. 
 So, I don't know. . . I'm gonna keep looking, and call the radio station.  
Sorry to get anybody else all worked up for nothing. . . 

Is 11/26/96 too early to joke about the Spice Girls in London?  I'm thinking 
that  their reign of terror had probably already begun in the fall of 96 
over there.

- -Hannah
- ------------------------------------------
Hannah Kuhlmann - kuhl0025@tc.umn.edu
**FLASHY BEN FOLDS FIVE WEBSITE** AT
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1094/
- ------------------------------------------

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:14:54
From: mikgle@globalnet.co.uk
Subject: Die hard fans, of the Sp*ce G*rls

Yo wassup D,

Some gripes:

Meredith wrote:

> W= what E= ever A=
>and E=ever 
>A= amen, so in turn, that makes WEAEA.  I am not trying to put you down in
any
>fashion, but if you were a die hard fan, you would have known that .  

Did anyone else CRINGE at this? go on then Meredith, what does EW stand
for? Not Entertainment weekly, but Eddie Walker, of course.  I am not
trying to put you down in any fashion, but if you were a die hard fan, you
would have known that 

also: Will wrote/ typed:

>I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up-  At the end of one of those
songs recorded
>in London on 11/26/96 (I'm not gonna get up and check) on NBP, Ben Folds
clearly
>says "Thank you.  The Spice Girls will be back in March."  Hmmm...let's look:
>- -The Spice Girls didn't appear until around March 1997. 
>- -This announcement took place many months before their album was
released.  
>So am I misunderstanding him, or...DID THE SPICE GIRLS OPEN FOR BEN FOLDS
FIVE?

well, unfortunately, the Spice Girls have been around since *March 1996*.
At least. (although it feels like forever... the seconds pass slowly).
Their first single Wannabe, a musical masterpiece, was released about
then-ish. so by Nov 96 they were just about HUUGE over here. But hey, -
they still could've opened for bff!

Bye,
@nn@

:::: "This could be a case for Mulder and Sculleeeee" :::: 
PS I'm going to see them (catatonia) tomorrow! hurrah!

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:38:40 +0000
From: paul.leung@virgin.net (paul.leung@virgin.net)
Subject: Spice Girls

To the guy that asked about the London show...
Yes, it's a little publicised fact that the Spice girls did actually 
open for a few of the UK tour shows in 1996. This was when they weren't 
really a big name band and still learning how to breathe. Apparently, 
due to a very good singing coach their harmonies were pretty good back 
then but then they fired her so we'll never know for sure. I'm sure if 
you're really desperate you'll find a bootleg.

Anthony

P.s. don't pay for bootlegs, ever.

I can juggle one-handed

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:59:59 -0500
From: Randy Locklair <randy@ny.amarex.com>
Subject: NYC SEATING ARANGEMENTS! 

ok for the last time!

There are sections in the ballroom.. balconies and floor.. floor has NO
SEATS :) not sure about balc but the floor (GA, section G, etc etc) has
NONE! :) hehehe

- -Randy

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:06:16 -0500
From: Randy Locklair <randy@ny.amarex.com>
Subject: Brick meaning ;)

I always figured brick was about an abortion.. seems to make sense..


"6 am day after Christmas
I throw some clothes on in the dark
The smell of cold
Car seat is freezing
The world is sleeping
I am numb"

typical song setup..we know the time of the year and everything..

"Up the stairs to the apartment
She is balled up on the couch"

girl sad about something

"Her mom and dad went down to Charlotte
They're not home to find us out"

another key setup point

"And we drive
Now that I have found someone
I'm feeling more alone
Than I ever have before

She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly
Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere
She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly

They call her name at 7:30"

abortion clinic..

I pace around the parking lot
Then I walk down to buy her flowers
And sell some gifts that I got
Can't you see
It's not me you're dying for"

talking about the baby..

"Now she's feeling more alone
Than she ever has before"

she's lost the baby..

"She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly
Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere
She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly

As weeks went by
It showed that she was not fine"

post abortional depression..


rest of the song just backs things up..

- -Randy

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:12:29 -0330
From: "Andrew Fifield" <andrew.the.great@thezone.net>
Subject: ???

	To the person doing the favorite song contest or whatever you wish to call
it, I'd like to extend my opinion and vote for "Best Imitation of Myself".
The bridge from that song is nothing short of amazing. Next to that I would
probably say "Steven's Last Night in Town" if that is relevant at all.
	Question: Just what were the guys on when the cover photos for Whatever
were taken?
	And to hop on the porn star name bandwagon mine would be Lars Panis.
	Thank you for your time. Sabalu. Nanoo

		" As a matter of fact, my name is indeed Ben Folds"
								Ben Folds

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:28:40 -0500
From: Kerry <kgarvin@mindspring.com>
Subject: Spice Girls Opening for Ben Folds Five? Nope

Someone asked in the last Armchair why Ben says the Spice Girls will be
back in March on track 12 of NBP (Julianne)...

He actually says "We're the Spice Girls...we'll be back in March." :)
Guess that explains it.

Kerry

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:08:11 EST 
From: toadaholic@juno.com (Toad Princess B)
Subject: WAEA

In response to Meredith's comment
 <snip>
" WEAEA.  I am not trying to put you down in anyfashion, but if you were
a die hard fan, you would have known that "
<snip>
 I think that was a really rude response to a fellow fans
question...oh...I'm sorry...Dreamster obviously must not be such a die
hard fan as you are. It seems like a lot of people on this list feel they
have to prove how big a fan they are...why don't we just share our love
for Ben's music and be kind to fellow fans...whether they came in to Ben
during Majosha or Brick...the point is ... we are all fans..that is why
we are on this list.   

Toad Princess B.
"Scars are souvenirs you never lose, the past is never far"  GOO GOO
DOLLS

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