THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #792 - January 30, 1998
Magical Armchair Digest Friday, January 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 792
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
(BETH?) MISS LYON read this!!!!
Tournament
Boston to NYC ride
extra tickets?
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #791
unsubscribe
oh yeah?
Bass Dist.
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #790
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #790
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #790
Naked bovine photos
Dave Brubeck, Joe Morello Influence?
AOL's NBP Review -- Worth Reading
S/T + Bonus Track
Dumb contest.
Sueing over KATE? and more pjilly fans!!!!!
Ehh?
Emaline and Tom & Mary chord progressions
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:06:41 -0500
From: david beck <drbeck@ibm.net>
Subject: (BETH?) MISS LYON read this!!!!
hello everyone, i am sorry, but this is directed to one person in
particularly...MISS LYON!!!! MISS LYON!!!! if you are reading this, i am
still waiting for the vhs tape from you, i sent you a mix of bff boots,
and you have not sent me the vhs tape that you said you would 3 weeks
ago... i am getting annoyed...i don't want to have to officially
announce that you are a bad trader....
officer friendly
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:25:46 -0500 (EST)
From: SLAYBAMJ@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Subject: Tournament
Okay BF% Fans! The results are in from the second bracket of first round
competition here at the Ben-Bowl! The match-ups were as follows.
Underground vs Dick Holster
She Don't Use Jelly vs One Angry Dwarf...
Sports & Wine vs The Last Polka
Kalamazoo vs Song For the Dumped
Alice Childress vs The Ultimate Sacrifice
Twin Falls vs Selfless, Cold & Composed
Stephen's Last Night In Town vs All Shook Up
Missing the War vs UNcle Walter
Bad Idea (Soundtrack) vs Bad Idea (NBP)
Cigarette vs Julianne
Hava Nagila vs Emaline
And the winners are...
Underground
One Angry Dwarf...
The Last Polka
Song 4 the Dumped
Alice Childress
Selfless, Cold & Composed
Stephen's Last Night In Town
Missing the War
Bad Idea (NBP)
Julianne
Emaline
Incidentally, Underground, Emaline and Steve's Last Night all won complete
shut-outs. Also, does anyone else think the Missing the War won an upset
victory?
The closest match of that round was Twin Falls vs SC&C. Wow. What a fight!
Also, Evaporated beat Tom & Mary in the other bracket. I have to say that I was
a bit disappointed. It was VERY, VERY close though.
Anyhow, stay tuned Ben-Fans for more hard hitting action.
Judges, watch your mailboxes for the next rounds.
SLAY
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:40:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "george wm. hicks, jr." <ghicks@fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: Boston to NYC ride
Hello--
My friend and I have secured two tickets for the show in NYC on Friday,
2/20--now all we have to do is get down there somehow. Anyone from the
Boston area who is going to the Hammerstein show, drop me an e-mail, and
maybe we can work something out. Sure, you'd be giving a ride to two
complete strangers, but we're all friends here on the Armchair, right?
We're just a couple of harmless college kids. Even if you're going to the
show but also don't know how you're getting down there, let me know you're
out there as well. So, in short, anyone from Boston going to the NYC show,
e-mail me!
george
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:29:06 EST
From: THANEZRA4@aol.com
Subject: extra tickets?
i am in desperate need for atleast 1 extra ticket to the st.louis show on
valentines day. if anyone has any or knows of anyone, please contact me at
thanezra4@aol.com. thank you.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:30:03 -0500
From: Randy Locklair <randy@ny.amarex.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #791
>P.S.: I know it has been discussed ad naseum, but here goes... I think the
>phone that rings in SLNIT is a AT&T cordless phone. It sounds just like
>mine.
it sounds alot like my pager to me!
- -randy
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:49:58 -0600 (CST)
From: jaimee lucke <jlucke@badlands.NoDak.edu>
Subject: unsubscribe
unsubscibe
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:54:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Judi Smith <jsmith@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: oh yeah?
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:17:39 -0700
> From: MATTHEW KEITH WARNICK <1WARNIMA@UVSC.EDU>
> Subject: Judi Smith sucks
>
> Judi Smith sucks.
> ------------------------------
oh yeah? you and what army!?!?!
no wait, that didn't .... i mean...
(no really, anybody know what i DID?)
judi smith hello... do you miss me
jsmith@bc.seflin.org i hear you say you do,
but not the way i'm missing you
"You can do it! what's new... how's the weather
Lose lose lose! Be a loser!" is it stormy where you are
-- casey, who is no richard simmons you sound so close,
but it feels like you're so far
"kiss the rain" - billie myers
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:43:24 +1100
From: "BECK" <beckwk@pnc.com.au>
Subject: Bass Dist.
Hi yall
sorry to keep raving about such a borng subject, but here
are some of the bass distortions that Rob. might be using
so I have put them up in case anyone cares, I'm not an
expert on the matter, but Rob is supposed to be using the
97 EH/Sovek Bigg Muff pedal, it's in a green box (thanks
Ted, your a champ!!) so, here it is, drop me a line if you want to
know where I got them from!
'74 EH Big Muff Pi, Lambs head, red writing, EH3003, S36999 x3, BC 239 x1,
carbon comp Rs, Alum bottom w/ tread, reissue knobs, VG $150
'79 Big Muff Pi, Black/red graphics, tone bypass sw, exc+++ $175
'81 EH Big Muff Pi, Red/black on silver, EH3034, transistors, exc+ $150
'97 Electro Harmonix/Sovtek Big Muff Pi in wooden box, new $75 3.
'97 EH/Sovtek Big Muff Pi NM $50
Matt
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:02:03 -0500
From: Randy Locklair <randy@ny.amarex.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #790
>hey I was just wondering if anyone on thi slist has ever heard of the
>immortal Keith emmerson, master of piano and member of Emmerson, Lake and
>Palmer. I think that as a piano player, ben can be compared to whoever,
>but as a showman, he is deffinitely taking after Keith, who was famous for
>smashing pianos and expensive organs, even moreso than ben, because he used
>weaponry and often turned the piano on himself, causing many a cracked rib.
>
>SO, i don't expect many of you to know what i'm talking about (piss off if
>you want to flame me) so if anyone agrees, you can e-mail me.
i beg to differ about not knowing :).. i do agree with you.. i never had
thought about it yet but you've got a very interesting point..i'd be
interested to know how many ppl here have heard of el&p before..
- -me
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:03:36 -0500
From: Randy Locklair <randy@ny.amarex.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #790
It does NOT sound like the original! The manufacturing is different.
- -me
>Everyone seems to be talking about the fact that Robert Sledge uses a big
>muff pedal. However, there seems to be some confusion about its
>availability. The original big muff pedals are now only available as used
>vintage effects. However, Sovtek makes a new big muff that uses the exact
>same parts as the original. It is available at all Sam Ash locations, the
>Musicians Friend catalog, and any other place that can order it. This means
>that you can get it with ease. It's not some mystical lost effect produced
>by an obscure Russian company operating out of a shack during the
>seventies.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:15:44 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #790
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:16:17 PST
>From: "Cheryl ." <chezza@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: /// & Burn
>Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a flame war, but everyone stop
>apologising for the way you think.
Okay, well I'm SORRY you feel th-- oops! i said it again, i'm so-...damn.....
Don't flame me for posting this, okay?
i can't help it, Satan is my master.
jess ;)
"I bet you never knew but now you know-
I'm the undisputed king of this disco"
--DJ Kool
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:27:01 EST
From: Brygon@aol.com
Subject: Naked bovine photos
well well well. in honor of this post i have one
quich....um.......quick....(yeah thats it) ....question about NBP. WHERE IN
BEN'S NAME DO I FIND THE FREAKIN LYRICS??!? that is all for now but if anyone
would be so nice to direct me to a pay phone.....um....rather maybe their URL
i would be much obliged.
king bry
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:01:45 EST
From: BenFoldsJ@aol.com
Subject: Dave Brubeck, Joe Morello Influence?
Heya Armchairers,
Is it just me, or do the Five seem to have some sort of Dave Brubeck
Quartet sound to them. I noticed some similiarities in style in almost all of
Ben's stuff. Selfless, Cold, and Composed is really Brubeck if you ask me.
Darren plays alot of his jazzy beats in 9/8ths and 5/4ths, so I know that
he's got to have listed somewhere Joe Morello as one of his influences. Not
only, but Darren plays the exact same 60's Ludwig kit as Morello -- the only
difference being Morello's is silvery pearl white, and Jessee's is sparkle
blue. (Wahoo! I got the same kit as Darren! Oh, and those 4 pc. kits were made
specifically for jazz...or at least they had that in mind when they crafted
them so beautifully.)
If anyone has heard anything of this before, or maybe just want to start
a discussion, post it.
~Jordan Rodbell
benfoldsj@aol.com
p.s. For the musically challenged, the Dave Brubeck Quartet was a breakthrough
jazz quartet form the early 60's who gained popularity from their song "Take
Five" -- the kind of jazz you would hear in a Woody Allen movie. They were
particularily known for changing the drumming's time signature from the tiring
4/4ths time to a new 9/8ths and 5/4ths. These guys are great, and I would
recommend picking up the latest reissue CD with great liner notes, "Time Out."
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:20:56 EST
From: BenFoldsJ@aol.com
Subject: AOL's NBP Review -- Worth Reading
Hey Armchairers,
I noticed this on AOL while browsing the music section. Forgive me for the
formatting, but I can't seem to get rid of it. Anyway, it's a great review,
other than the repeated Billy Joel references. Check this out.
~Jordan Rodbell
benfoldsj@aol.com
Ben Folds Five
Naked Baby Photos
Caroline
rated: 4 out of 5
by Music Axis staff reporter Markie Broiler
*to hear a sample of this album, click the album cover.
Piano? What the hell is a piano doing on a rock record? Well, before bands
were brainwashed into the guitar/bass/drums/vocals regime of music, there were
plenty of pianos, as Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis would gladly tell you.
Ben Folds Five has bravely dropped the guitar and substituted the piano, an
instrument most of us remember as the thing we were forced to practice on
summer afternoons better suited for kickball games. Well, whoever forced Ben
Folds to practice the piano should be given some sort of award, because the
boy can play.
Naked Baby Photos is a record comprised of live tracks, rarities, covers, and
songs that didn't make their album. Some songs, like For Those Of Y'all Who
Wear Fanny Packs aren't even songs at all, but impromptu jams recorded while
the soundmen were out getting coffee. Other songs are ones written in the
early years of the band, like Eddie Walker, the first song Ben Folds Five ever
wrote. Live recordings include shows from London, Japan, and Amsterdam. My
favorite track on this album was Idaho Falls a Built to Spill cover recorded
in Japan where the audience didn't know when the song was over. While the
actual recording had none of the crowd noise, a bootleg from the show was
later stumbled across and the crowd noise from that was added to the original
board recording.
Overall, this record sounds like early Billy Joel. The distorted bass that
accompanies the piano is a nice touch that keeps the music from straying too
far into the desert of adult contemporary and the varied sounds on this record
keep it interesting. Ben Folds Five is getting bigger and bigger, so hurry up
and snatch this record so you can pretend you were into them before they were
cool.
Gotta add...the last line just about says it about some people. Heh...
Enjoy!
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:13:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Frank Maynard <maynard@mail.oeonline.com>
Subject: S/T + Bonus Track
Vicki asked:
> Just a quick question...I was looking through the cdnow website the other
>day looking for bff singles and they listed an import CD labeled as :S/T +
>bonus track. Does anyone know exactly what this is?
This would be the Japanese pressing of the self-titled (first) album. The
bonus track is "Tom & Mary". The rest of the album is the same. The big
difference (besides the bonus track, and probably the price) is the
program booklet, which has the lyrics to all the songs in both English and
Japanese.
-fjm
I've got this great idea
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:32:10 EST
From: HoserGirl@aol.com
Subject: Dumb contest.
Did everybody enter that Ben Folds Five UBL contest to win that "rare" double
live albumn and rare concert posters? I hate them being big for the one reason
that this contest exists and I will never ever win...... It honestly makes me
want to cry.
Bonniy
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:48:39 EST
From: SASH37@aol.com
Subject: Sueing over KATE? and more pjilly fans!!!!!
Hi how ya doin
why did the girl commit suicide because of listening to KATE?
i missed that one.........
also i AM going to the BB5 philly show on Feb 21st.....any fans going who
wanna join upo and do something funny EMAIL me at SASH37@aol.com
tommy k
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:52:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Peter Mast <mastpd@elmail.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: Ehh?
To whoever asked if anyone was going to the Chicago show...
I would if I could! Like a lot of other people, I have been deprived of
tickets, but if anyone knows where I can get some, I'd be a very happy
person, and generous.
Brick debate content: I hope everyone knows the real meaning of the song
by now. But here's the thought... a great tune can be relevent in many
ways. I can only imagine the number of people who have lived through
being dumped, losing a friend, whatever else, because this song has so
many levels to it. "She's alone, I'm alone, and now I know it."
Certainly not easy times, in any respect.
Pete
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:07:59 -0600 (CST)
From: Skip Allums <mallums@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
Subject: Emaline and Tom & Mary chord progressions
howdy all!
haven't posted in a while.. its good to be back! on with the post!
i think i've figgered out some of the chord progression to both
Emaline and Tom & Mary.
emaline:
i've only got part of it... the main verse progression:
G D A
i wish it was last september
G G
when we could lose ourselves in crowds ev'ryday
D A
cuz emaline don't walk in time
G
she's not the same, thats all you can say....
as for the rest, well... its stumpin me right now.
tom & mary:
again, i've only got the main verse progression:
E A
E A E A
for the benefit of tom and mary, before our guests arrive
E A B7?
if they haven't found out already its gonna blow their minds....
if anyone has figured out more, please let me know.
hope this helps some people...
oh by the way, these are guitar chords. i don't know jack about piano
chords, and the piano chords involved in these songs are probably a bit
different...
have a great day!
Skip Allums... Protector of the Pink Jelly Beans, and President of Skipland.
Beatles Fan... Root Beer Man.
"Gloria in Vanillum" (glory be to vanilla)
"qui me amat, amat et canem meam" (love me, love my dog)
mallums@tiger.lsu.edu www.angelfire.com/mi/mwa3/index.html
"I soiled my armor I was so scared!" - Sir Robin, Monty Python's Holy Grail
"A thingy! A fiendish thingy!" -George Harrison, Help! (the movie)
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