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The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #888 - March 16, 1998



Magical Armchair Digest     Monday, March 16 1998     Volume 01 : Number 888



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #886
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #884
    stop the stereotypes
    Bad Idea lyrics
    fame and todd and empathy
    Sellouts, Tours, and T.V.
    Re: BAD IDEA, once and for ALL
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #886

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:38:33 EST
From: Rocket no8 <Rocketno8@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #886

>From the Sony BFF web site--

In case you missed the Ben Folds Five/ CNET Internet broadcast and interveiws
from Chicago....The Sci Fi Channel will be airing it this weekend. - Sunday at
10:30 AM PST and 9:30 PM PST.
The USA Network- will also be showing both the interveiw as well as parts from
the performance. Sunday at 6 AM (ET/PT) and Tues 1 AM (ET/PT) Don't Miss It!
- -al
"when you're following an angel does it mean you have to throw your body off a
building?"-TMBG

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:55:09 EST 
From: luckyday6@juno.com (Jason A Masi)
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #884

if anyone has the lyrics for emaline please send them soon!

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:39:53 -0500
From: Burton Posey <bposey@mindspring.com>
Subject: stop the stereotypes

I believe Undergroundheads is a nice little BS term. I heard of Ben Folds
Five in late or early 95-96. The first song that I heard was Underground. I
saw it on 120 minutes(it was the only time the video was played on MTV I
think). Who gives a flying F*@k if people like Underground. If everyone
claims to be such true BFF fans, they would probably all be spending their
time listening to the bands music and not devoting all their time to
ridiculing fans who didn't have the pleasure of hearing them as early as
the rest of us. This Digest is about the fans and what they think of the
music, not what the fans think about each other. I thought Underground was
a kickass song when I first heard it way back when. I still think it rocks.
When people hear it, no matter what kind of mood they are in, they become
happy. Hell, that song still helps me cheer up when I'm bummed, and I am
sure that it probably does the same for everyone else that has heard it.
Let us talk about the music, and not abput what is wrong with the fans. Later.

Burton Posey
*please feel free to back me up on this one (bposey@mindspring.com)

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:57:57 EST
From: JBusch9540 <JBusch9540@aol.com>
Subject: Bad Idea lyrics

I don't remember who or when but someone posted the lyrics a while back and
they were:
Pull over the car
Pull over the car
I think I see some sweet store around
Pull over the car
Pull over the car
I think I feel like King Tut again

I think this is probably the right lyrics. Sounds closer than anything anyone
else has posted. (Fly-fisher?????????)

And what about those lyrics to Fannie Packs on the www.lyrics.ch???? Facing
your face?? Shit your ass is cool???? Are these people THAT hard of hearing???

~Jared B.

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:30:14 PST 
From: "valerie hochschild" <charzi@hotmail.com>
Subject: fame and todd and empathy

Hi Fivers.
  I haven't time to really respond to Mr. Chamraz the Hot AC radio guy 
(yeah, it took me this long too), except to say he pretty much hit it on 
the head.  That's how commercial radio works.  That music is a business 
thing is also true no matter how we want to sublimate it.  But it's not 
all that cut and dried either.  First off, how Brick got where it did is 
because of the work of legions of 550 weasels who get paid to help the 
bands they believe in (and a label actually believing in a band is 
pretty amazing in the first place) get exposed to as many people as 
possible - even if many of those people are frigging idiots.  And 
believe you me, that job ain't the easiest in the world.  A friend from 
one band has likened it to an art form in itself - inspiration and 
stupidity and strategy and beauty and cooperation and a ton of luck. And 
even *then* things may not work. I'm not putting weasels up on a 
pedestal here, but you try being a weasel for a while and see how easy 
it is...I know I couldn't do it.  Anyway, this "selling out" 
whatever-it-is isn't the boys going down on their knees to the highest 
bidder or something.  They just do the fabulousness they do, and this 
legion convinces people to let them do it more.  Ssometimes this means 
doing it times maybe they'd rather not, like on lil' talk shows and 
stuff.  But how many of you in bands would kill for the number of gigs 
BFF has been able to play on the strength of WAEA?  Damn right.  So 
while maybe they could have survived without all this hoopla, it should 
be appreciated while it's going on.  (Would they have been able to snag 
this Bacharach thing otherwise?  What an experience that'll be!) 
Besides, this Brick fever will last a while (especially if more stations 
like Steven's pick up on it), but not forever.  So just ride it out and 
see what 550 does next and maybe there'll be more bitching to do.  
Besides, BFF can't be under too much whore pressure when Celine Dion 
pays the label's bills...sweet.
  Wow. God forbid if I *had* had time. :-)
  What I originally sent this for was to put my name in to the hat of 
those looking for info on that Rundgren interview - audio file, 
transcript, cassette, anyone who even heard the damn thing and can 
recount it.  There you go.
   And I know people have been skittish about Ben and Kate's divorce.  
What sad news this was. While I think discussion of the circumstances is 
clearly out-of-bounds, the fact remains from all accounts (among them my 
own), these two are good, kind, bright people, and we should be allowed 
to offer our condolences in a terribly bittersweet time.  Well, I've 
offered mine, so if it got through, thanks Frank.  Case closed. 
   I also think I've seen some sweets go 'round.  But that's just me.

Peace,
Valerie 

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:34:03 -0500
From: "Mark J. Rawlings" <rawlings@www.datastream.net>
Subject: Sellouts, Tours, and T.V.

I'm really sorry about this and everything but I'm got a little complaining to do.  First, about all this sellout crap.  What's the deal?  Who are we to call a band a sellout or not?  I'm not sure about everyone else but I don't know their motives for goi

ng to a major label so I'm not going to criticize them for it.  Instead, I'm just going to continue to enjoy the good music cause that's what it's all about anyway.  Get off their backs!  Who cares if one of their songs is played for a break-up shot on a 

t.v. show.  In my opinion, it was pretty smooth the way it was done.  What's the difference between a performance on Letterman and a clip of their song on Dawson's Creek?  Both of the shows are on national television so the band's getting exposure anyway.

  The thing is we jump up and down and rush to our t.v. sets to watch them perform Brick on Letterman(which by the way wasn't a very good performance anyway), but we puff out our cheeks when Evaporated(a highly underrated and !
unnoticed song) gets played on Dawson's Creek.  Be happy that the song got attention.  I thought it was great to hear it.	
	Second, I've heard all about a supposed mid-year tour but does anybody know when the tourdates are gonna be posted?  And does anybody know if they are coming back to Atlanta this time?  I was pretty upset to find that not only Atlanta but the whole south

 in general was passed by on the February tour.  I miss getting the chillbumps when they hit that beautiful three-part harmony on Missing the War.  Well, that's about it.  I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my sellout lecture but that's the way I feel.  

																						Later,       Brad 																"If I had a million dollars....." -- Barenaked Ladies   

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:30:56 -0500
From: Chris Lopez <chris@dc.jones.com>
Subject: Re: BAD IDEA, once and for ALL

On the sudio track of Bad Idea he says the thing about tha sqirrel.  But on
a live 
that's up on a page, he says "I see a fly fisher".  The live one is up at
www.underworld.net/bff

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:09:21 -0600
From: "Natural One" <jibbers@ivi.net>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #886

Hey everyone, if you want to trade bootlegs of the great BFF, just email
me...some of you already
have, but its ok if you want more trades....NEWBIES are of course welcome!

thanks,
mark

My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling
badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep
swinging 
- -Hank Aaron 
Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about
achieving it and staying with that plan. 
- -Tom Landry 


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