THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR

The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #1059 - June 11, 1998



Magical Armchair Digest    Thursday, June 11 1998    Volume 01 : Number 1059



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    my first BFF show!
    Rockford Files
    blah
    [none]
    BFF on Conan O'Brien
    more Ben Folds Five TV sighting things
    my other post
    VWBUGN's Math
    GA (A Real Answer)
    Air-piano
    Song Book
    Rockford Files
    Big Shindig
    top bands
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1057
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1056
    DAT of Live BFF Show 
    *bringing up the rear of the chair*
    ringing like the change in the legless man's dixie cup
    Chuck Folds, Mosh Pits
    noises on WEAEA

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 01:14:06 EDT
From: Nycurator@aol.com
Subject: my first BFF show!

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to spread a little "BFF rookie" enthusiasm throughout the list--
I've only been a fan for a year or so, but I'm finally going to see my first
BFF show at Starlake in PA tonight! Elliot Smith's opening and Beck's along
for the ride, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I'm just so *wired* to see
the boys play live for the first time! If anyone plans on taping the show,
please contact me-- I don't have the means to do so myself, and I'd love a
copy...

Lesly 

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:03:28 -0700 (MST)
From: short1@aztec.asu.edu (LINDSAY DIANE WARREN)
Subject: Rockford Files

David Della Bitta <ddel4695@uriacc.uri.edu> wrote:

> Hey there! I know this probably sounds really dumb, but what are the
> Rockford Files? I've been wondering ever sonce i heard Battle Of Who
> Could Care Less. Please help,

Rockford Files was this old TV show where James Gardner <?> played a
private investigator. You can catch in on some B cable channels that
play old TV shows.

Dave Della Bitta


They play the rockford files on normal tv here in Az... I personally don't
care for the show, but one of my roommates used to watch it every morning,
and drove me insane! but I drove him insane right back, by singing battle
pretty much the whole time it was on, because it would get stuck in my
head! :)

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:03:46 -0400
From: Jaki Hsieh <sinnamon@mindspring.com>
Subject: blah

If one more person posts a "cant we all get along, its all about the music"
post I think I shall scream.

Jaki

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:52:55 -0600
From: "Erik C. Lyons" <EPA8820@epa.state.il.us>
Subject: [none]

JEESH. 

Hello? This is EXACTLY why the RF (maillist) was developed and named
the way it was (read=because we understand old school 70's-80's crap). 

#1 - James Garner was Jim Rockford
#2 - It was created by Roy Huggins and Stephen J. Cannell 
#3 - There are 113 episodes
#4 - It ran from 1974-1980 (with a show in 1995)
It is a *classic* among TV detective drama/comedy shows. Who can forget
Angel?!

I am not knocking ANYONE for not knowing this. Really, I'm not. BUT.
Please don't attempt to answer something you are clueless about. Gives me
a reason to post. An I know how much you all hate that.

Bentent you ask? The techno version of Brick sucks. Bad.

- -deke
*whoosh...up, up and away!*

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:47:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Maynard <maynard@mail.oeonline.com>
Subject: BFF on Conan O'Brien

Ben Folds Five will be performing on NBC Television's "Late Night with 
Conan O'Brien" on the night of Friday, July 17 (early morning July 18 in 
most areas). 
 -fjm
                  You've done no wrong. Get out of my sight

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:58:09 EDT
From: LC54992@aol.com
Subject: more Ben Folds Five TV sighting things

Hey fivers...I was just watchin "My Generation" on VH1 out of pure bordem and
in the one round, they do this thing where they name two artist and you have
to say the common instrument they both play...so i tuned in just in time to
see them ocmpare Billy Joel and Ben Folds...and you know the instrument..say
it on the count of three 1, 2, 3..PIANO!!!!! okay sorry, I thought it was
pretty cool. Later
                Robin 

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:03:36 EDT
From: LC54992@aol.com
Subject: my other post

oops sorry you guys. i didn't know someone else already posted about my
generation..sorry to repeat!
                     Robin

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:39:50 -0700
From: "Kamp, Marcus S" <Marcus.Kamp@PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: VWBUGN's Math

You wrote: "this person couldn't have been a fan for 10 yrs...please
correct me."
Actually, no that would be correct, except that she said she's been a
fan of Ben Folds for 10 years, not Ben Folds Five.  There's a
difference.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:46:50 -0700
From: "Kamp, Marcus S" <Marcus.Kamp@PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: GA (A Real Answer)

Since nobody's bothered to help this poor soul out, lemme step forward
(as I am wont to do!).  GA stands for "General Admission".
Oh & it was James Garner in Rockford Files (another Okie like myself!),
not Tom "Cheesy D*ckhead" Selleck.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:55:47 +0000
From: Chrish <colby@alma.edu>
Subject: Air-piano

I don't think you can help but jam those fingers to the 
imaginary piano Lauren.  I do it too!

Cheer!

Christian
__________________________________
"All is fair, all is fair in love"
 
 Christian Colby  
 Alma, Michigan

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:06:20 EDT
From: BHanulak@aol.com
Subject: Song Book

Hey Everyone....

I've been reading and observing for around a year or so, and I've been a huge
fan for a little longer than that.  I'm really posting to discuss a possible
trade, but first I'd like to offer my opinions on the "real fan" vs.
"brickhead" debate.  

For the most part, I think it's ridiculous, but understandable.  I was lucky
enough to get into BF5 before Brick.  I was playing piano for a three peace
band for a school assembly, and commented to the bass player about how full we
sounded with just piano, bass, and drums.  He said I may be interested in this
band, gave me WAEA, and the rest is history.  (BTW, my first favorite songs
were the slower ones, Selfless and Smoke, and then I started to get into the
faster ones.)  Regardless, though, I "found" BF5 later than many of you.  I
can't explain my jealousy when I hear people's stories about seeing them in
small venues in 95 or 96.  But to an extent my experiences were similar...I
was in the front row at both the Supper Club and Hammerstein shows in NYC, and
at least the first one was before Brick spawned a new fan base.  

Anyway, I'm just rambling on now, but I feel that anyone can be a true fan.
I'm sick of people saying "I have 3 albums, 4 imports, 5 million MP3's, and an
autographed poster, so I must be a bigger fan than you."  Many of the biggest
fans have probably never been to a concert, have just the 3 albums, and may be
so computer-illiterate that they have no idea that the Armchair even exists.
But the music means something to them, it's something they live for.  I will
sit for hours trying to play Ben's stuff on the piano, and sometimes I'm even
successful (hey, I just got the entire intro to Philosophy).  And when I'm
doing it, I'm kind of "removed," and I get the (obviously false) feeling that
this is all I ever have to do.  If someone just discovered BF5 say, 3 or 4
months ago (and probably because of Brick) but gets the same joy that I do,
are they a "worse" fan in any way?  Of course not.  At the Hammerstein show in
February, a girl standing by me said "This is the only song I know..." when
Brick came on.  It seemed kind of sad to me at first, and I was actually
annoyed, but chances are that by now, this girl has been exposed to all of
BF5.  Possibly she was dragged to the show by a friend, only agreeing to go
because she like Brick.  And at that time, there's no way she could have been
considered a BF5 fan, just a Brick fan.  And what's wrong with that?  

I know what it feels like to see "our" band get bigger and bigger...kind of
like we're losing something that was close to us.  Now the shows are larger,
much less personal.  But the enthusiasm is still there, and if you think that
your "rank" as a fan is determined by how many times you've met Ben after a
show, then you're wrong.  A year ago, if someone said that they were a fan,
you knew it was true.  Now, you kind of have to check ("Wait, you mean you
really like them, or you just know Brick?").  But instead of scorning the
"Brickheads," lend them a copy of WAEA, and let them experience the "real"
BF5.  If my friend wasn't nice enough to do it, I would never be here, and
chances are, many of you wouldn't be either.

Now, let me apologize for taking so much space, and congratulate anyone who
has actually made it this far....(I didn't expect that to take so long).  

I am desperate for a copy (or a photocopy) of the S/T songbook.  It's been out
of stock forever from the website, and I've kind of reached a plateau when it
comes to figuring out the stuff for myself.  This is my offer:  I have no
bootlegs, but I do have a recordable CD drive, capable of producing wonderful
mix CD's.  I can put on anything from the albums, plus a couple singles I
have, as well as any MP3's you send me.  The only thing is that the total time
has to be around 73 minutes or so.  You give me a list of songs, or email me
the MP3's you want on there, and I will make you the CD.  You send me a
photocopy of the song book, I send the CD.  Easy enough?  I'll also consider
trades for Bootlegs, but only very high quality ones (preferably from DAT).
Due to the work in making the CD, I'd like to trade 1 CD for 2 tapes.  I'm
particularly looking for tapes from the two recent NYC shows I mentioned
above.  Please email me if interested.  My email address is BHanulak@aol.com.

Sorry again for being so long, but I've had a lot to say over the past year
and finally got to say it.

- --Brett

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:14:45 EDT
From: Brad654@aol.com
Subject: Rockford Files

In a message dated 98-06-09 20:21:56 EDT, you write:

> The rockford files was a 70s television show.  I want to say it had
>  either Patrick Duffy or Burt Reynolds or Tom Selleck starring in it,
>  but i'm not sure.  It's just another cheesy detective show that bombed
>  out after like 3 years, so..um..yeah

AAAUUUGGHHH!!!!

This will make me feel about 950 years old, but I have to say: Patrick Duffy
or Burt Reynolds or Tom Selleck?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  It was James Garner, and IT
WASN'T CHEESY!!! And IT DIDN'T BOMB OUT!!!! And it lasted LONGER THAN 3
YEARS!!!!

And I'm NOT REALLY PISSED!!! So DON'T FLAME ME!!!!

I just felt the twinge of a generation gap when I read that, that's all.

Methuselah.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:21:38 -0400
From: "Jennifer Nell Gordon" <jngordon@eos.ncsu.edu>
Subject: Big Shindig

I saw Ben Folds Five for the first time about 2 weeks ago at a 14 band show put
on by a local radio station in Raleigh, NC.  They were incredible.  I have
never been more impressed with anything in my life.  I had a chance to go see
Chuck Fold's band Snuzz earlier that week at the Brewery but I missed it :(
 Any one know when BFF will be coming back to Raleigh?

Jenn

- -- 
 "I would never lie; I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation."
			       Fox Mulder (Shadows)





				Jennifer Gordon
			http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jngordon

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:36:37 EDT
From: Rliltlz@aol.com
Subject: top bands

i must say that the last spot on marks chart should be PINK FLOYD or LED
ZEPPLIN
they are both rad	 

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:19:51 EDT
From: WAVMaker2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1057

Is anybody getting the bootleg for the Concert on Sunday at Giants Stadium
with DMB??? I really want it so if anyone is expecting it please e-mail me!!! 

Ken

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:24:16 EDT
From: WAVMaker2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1056

In a message dated 6/9/98 9:53:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-
armchair@ford.il.fontys.nl writes:

<< I have to say though, that I was way more into Ben
 and the boys than Beck and DMB. >>
Ben Folds is awesome man!  They rocked the hell out of Beck and DMB!!!! GO BEN
FOLDS!!!!

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:24:29 -0700
From: Thomas <777jet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: DAT of Live BFF Show 

Hi I need a good DAT tape recording of a great live BFF Show.
In return, I will send you a CD of it for free.

Please conact me at 777jet@bigfoot.com.
Thomas

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:26:34 -0600
From: "Erik C. Lyons" <EPA8820@epa.state.il.us>
Subject: *bringing up the rear of the chair*

to those who seem to have no idea about the show The Rockford Files
(RF), maybe the theme song will refresh your memory. Wait, they play it at all
the boys' stops...well, shoe. if you want to listen though, I have placed it on
my website (blatant plug) @ members.tripod.com/~elyons/ben_menu.htm
and you will of course follow the RF link, right? yes, that's seems natural.

hey. what time is it? ahhhh yes, it's Hammer-time....break it down...

and markus is one of the coolest, most incredible human beings you will
ever meet. please be nice to him, for he shall rule the world someday and
we will all be his humble servants. and Anniepantswhencrawlingonherknees
has always been the goddess of the ma...give her da props! (kneepads)
hee hee...love is abundant and I am sneaking out of here before the posse
gets all jiggy and funky on my arse...oh, and dreaming about markus is
completely normal and healthy and is encouraged. 

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:20:56 EDT
From: Corrin108@aol.com
Subject: ringing like the change in the legless man's dixie cup

Happy Birthday M. Doughty!

corinne

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:24:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leigh <emaline5@yahoo.com>
Subject: Chuck Folds, Mosh Pits

Hey, today I got an e-mail from Chuck Folds requesting for his new
site to be added on my links.  I was curious if everyone else are
getting the same e-mail from him.

Another thing, what is with moshing to Ben Folds Five?! I hear about
all these mosh pits as if it's at a freaken Metallica concert.  I just
can't picture a mosh pit at a BFF concert.

Oh yeah, see you all in Atlanta!

~Leigh(Apparently the "unoriginal" one)

The Page That's Uncanny To See
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/BenFolds5/index.html

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:15:51 -0500
From: Clayton Smith <ctsmith@onr.com>
Subject: noises on WEAEA

ok if my memory serves me correctly ive heard on the MA that somone hears a door creaking in brick.....well its not in brick its at the very end of Fair(awesome song) along with some ppl talking....if this has been said...SHOOT ME! (i really dont care) but i thought id put that in.....so lets all settle down and the war here...its really starting to suck

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