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Issue #1109 - July 10, 1998



Magical Armchair Digest     Friday, July 10 1998     Volume 01 : Number 1109



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    scary
    umm...no
    Re: The AOL "Chat" Transcription
    Re: 3 questions
    Re:  good one!
    Re:JKFett
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1108
    Ever hear of this single???
    Re: An apology/clarification
    whatevah
    BFF Covers...
    Help! What songs?
    covers and the like
    Fame and the Quandry That Lies Therein
    Sessions
    Thank you to everyone

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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:02:31 -0400
From: bf5 <bf5@SURRY.NET>
Subject: scary

<<I hope everyone gets to see this Sonic  Youth video.  It features the
young man himself in slow motion for the duration of the video.  Wow.  Not
only does he make out with this "wife" for quite a while, but he ALSO licks
his lips.  It does make you kinda sick, but it's also quite uplifting.... what
a funny video.>>

Man, that's what I'm talkin about.  I turned on the tv last week and I saw
Macauly Caulkin (whatever) licking his lips like that.  It's discusting.
Everytime I see him I still see him screaming and yelling "i don't think so"
(home alone movies).  yikes!

\ \/ /
~\/\/hitney  =o)

"ba ba ba, ba ba ba, ba ba ba, ba ba ba ba ba"  -bf5, fair  ;)

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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 21:11:04 -0400
From: bf5 <bf5@SURRY.NET>
Subject: umm...no

In reguards to the conversation between JKFett & Toadyrage that appeared in
armchair #1105, I don't believe it.  I don't think it's true; people have
screwed me over by making up crap like that.  For all we know, Toadyrage is
just some pissed off cs that is jealous or something.  People make up stuff
for different reasons, and I'm thinking there is a reason for this one.
When I met Robert a couple of months ago, he didn't seem stuck up, in a
hurry, or like I was wasting his time or anything.  I know that they have
changed some, but I don't think they have changed to an extreme such as that.

\ \/ /
~\/\/hitney  =o)

*i still wanna be kate*  :p~~

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:01:38 EDT
From: Emmaline20@aol.com
Subject: Re: The AOL "Chat" Transcription

I know I know I know...probably a million others have already responded, but
hey, there's nothing like beating a dead horse. People will always believe
what they choose to believe..which lies at the heart of this email. AOL
chats....people you don't know. I could say I knew the Pope and that he was
mean to me or something. A lot of the time, and this is common sense I would
think to all internet users, people you chat with aren't telling the truth. So
before you start thinking that Ben and Co. have become some wretched demons
ruined by fame, let's think about the source. Thank you and good night...and
looking forward to Conan next Thursday!! I'm throwing a Conan party if anyone
wants to come...right now it's just me :)

Sarah :)

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:29:10 EDT
From: SoNiKSpAm@aol.com
Subject: Re: 3 questions

In a message dated 98-07-08 21:27:55 EDT, you write:

<< I have three simple questions that I hope someone can answer for me.
 
 1. Who is Kate????     
     
     Kate is Ben Folds Ex wife
 
 2. A few people have talked about the Whatever and Ever Amen CD, they 
 have said that you can hear talking on a few of the CDs. Mine CD has 
 some talking, one thing they say is "shut the fuck up" So I'm wondering 
 do I have the talking CD??? I didn't buy my CD, I won it from the radio 
 station I listen to Z95.3FM in Vancouver BC

  if u hear the talking u just might.... my whatever cd has tons of talking..
i think right 
  right before brick and the "hidden track".. i think theres some more
floating around     
  too
 
 3. And my last question, does anyone know if the guys are coming to 
 Canada or better yet BC anytime soon??? I'm dying to see them in 
 concert!!!!! 
   
  that i got -no- clue about



Kerri

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:02:10 EDT
From: B5Folds@aol.com
Subject: Re:  good one!

In a message dated 98-07-08 21:45:18 EDT, 

<< doesn't this remind you of a lawyer and a witness trying to turn a jury to
their side?i
 don't know...but this seems a little hokey to me.  personally, i have had
nothing but
 good experiences with ben and co. >>


       I agree....   most of us all have had great experiances with the band.
I saw 
them in may and the only body guard ben had was his girlfriend.  Dan...  im a
little disapointed in you to make your judgement that the guys are "less of a
man" by 
one persons IM that for all you know could have been completely bullshiting
you.
I bet this toadyrage guy is laughing his ass off as we talk about this.

If anyone cares
D

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:29:52 EDT
From: KrZy29@aol.com
Subject: Re:JKFett

Hey all...ok i know everyone is responding to "the shocking post" about
BFF...but i have to put in my 2 cents...

1) I personally dont think its true i have never met the boys but...from what
i head they sound like a great bunch!!!

2) if i was that talented i would probably get a little full of myself as
well...

3) even if Ben was the biggest asshole in the world...that doesnt change my
opinion about their talent and the fact that i love their music! I think i
speak for most of you when i say that

anyway totally on a different topic...i had the strangest dream last
night...in my dream Ben married his current girlfriend and had a baby girl
named Kate Folds =) 

my best,
Kristina

"If you were happy every day of your life you wouldn't be a human being.You'd
be a game-show host"~Heathers

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:38:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Loreta Costa <costalor@polaris.acast.nova.edu>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1108

Cover song? Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight- by the one and only
Beatles.  That pretty much sums it  up.  
Ok guys, I'm a fairly new, truly obsessed fan, having had a major BFF
overload during the last couple of weeks.  Basically, what I'm asking for
is some juicy info on the boys: age, life story, relationships (amorous or
other), height, foot size, y'know, the basics.  Please indulge me!
Actually, I think i'm pretty good for a beginner.  I'd like to believe
they are the greatest thing since the beatles, this coming from someone
who's been a Beatlemaniac since age 4.  Ok, enough about me, please feed
me, I need input!

Sank you very mush.
- --Zoe

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 01:34:52 EDT
From: KamalaICB@aol.com
Subject: Ever hear of this single???

I was going through the Junk CD box at work today and came accross 


A JAPANESE IMPORT SINGLE FOR.....EMALINE!!!

yeppers, only one song on it, the title track, and it's the version off of
NBP, but all the writing in the insert is in japanese, it has both the
Caroline and Virgin record label labels on it, cover is baby blue with the
words Ben Folds Five and Emaline underneath....i freaked when i found
it...i've never seen it before

 saw at the record store today the "Schroders last nite in Philly" double disc
live CD...from the 2/21/98 show in Philly.....it was 46 bucks though that i
afford today, since i already had 50 bucks worth of stuff in my hands

that's all

casey
"He sees the children smoking pot and he knows that in a moment they'll be
shooting up heroin"--BF5 Uncle Walter

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 02:11:33 EDT
From: JKFett@aol.com
Subject: Re: An apology/clarification

Okay...first of all, it looks like I have made some major waves on the
Chair...change that, not waves, a monsoon... I do agree with most people that
one person's account can not be taken holeheartedly..chances are much of the
conversation is false (i.e. bodyguard). But he DOES live in Chapel Hill as he
is sending me a telephone book from there with Sledge's and Jessee's telephone
numbers in them, as well as a ad in the yellow pages for the Hardback Cafe. So
that part stands true. He obviously, no matter what experiences you have had
in the past with them, have a grasp (at least a little) on something the rest
do not. Now, when I posted it I had NO INTENTIONS OF DETOURING FAN SUPPORT and
did not believe all of it myself... Believe me, with all of the hate mail I
have been getting, I am aware that my true intention of just sparking some
talk amongst fans about how BFF is handing their new fame. I apologize for not
clarifying this in the letter and hope I did not make enemies for myself, nor
for the band...
~A BFF fan forever...
Dan

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 02:15:30 -0400
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: whatevah

Okay i STILL think an awesome cover song would be Peter Gabriel's
"Sledgehammer", as long as Rob sings and dances to it! :)
 
BFF and BNL: the Ladies are certainlly much funnier than BFF (they started
as a comedy troupe). Canada is also cleaner than the US. And they have
national healthcare. But i digress. Uhm....I wonder if the two bands dig
each other?

JKFett's chat: If i got famous and had to come back to cleveland, I'd be a
bitch to anyone who i didn't like from when i was younger. That's my
ultimate goal: become famous and then snub all the assholes i know. I bet
that toady guy was an asshole ben didn't like. 

jess

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 02:44:18 -0500
From: john_oc@juno.com
Subject: BFF Covers...

Hopefully someone on the chair or RF can back this up...

I just thought of a brilliant cover...Grant Lee Buffalo's "Mockingbirds".
 I have the GLB Honey Don't Think Promo CD5, and there is this version of
Mockingbirds live with a more prominent piano line, less guitar, more
bass and a sweet "Smoke"esque drum line.  The chorus, for the majority of
you guys who haven't heard it is falsetto harmonies.  Ahem, can we say
perfect for the band.  The guitar solo, is actually easily transcribed to
bass, and it would just work soooo well.  It is a crossover in styles
seeing that BFF is not a Americana band in the mold of Son Volt, Wilco,
or Tragically Hip(actually from Canada) as GLB is.  Mockingbirds would
absolutely rawk!

Reply publicly or privately...would love to meet other devoted GLB fans
that are also disappointed in the departure of Paul Kimble and the
addition of the Tonic bassist on the new album, that is by far their
worst to date.

Oh well, also waiting the inevitable cover of Karma Police by Radiohead. 
I also think that covers of Fountains of Wayne - I want an Alien For
Christmas, Matthew Sweet - Sick of Myself(man those chorus harmonies
could be pristeen), For Squirrels - Left Behind, and Counting Crows -
Raining in Baltimore.  Guess that's enough from me.  Two posts in two
days?  What's wrong with me.  Thought of another great cover!!!  Vic
Chesnutt - Dodge!!!  Could be sooooo good with high energy!!!!

Ordered the Looper 7"(Stuart David of Belle and Sebastian), can't wait. 
Check out the new Wilco/Billy Bragg collaboration too on recreating
unreleased Woody Guthrie songs.  So brilliant.  Sooooo brilliant.  Ohhhh.

New Counting Crows Live!!!  New Elliott Smith!!!!  New TMBG Live!!!! 
Soooo excited!!!!

INDIE ROCK DIRECTOR
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johnbot


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 98 10:47:36 +0100
From: Bengt Stenstr=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f6m?= <bengt.stenstrom@swipnet.se>
Subject: Help! What songs?

This may sound silly, but I have a live tape from the Roskilde festival, 
but since I'm fairly new to BFF I'm not quite familiar with their 
songs/song titles. Could someone please help me out with these three:

1. The announcer refers to a song as "If it makes you happy" (?)


2. They sing "down from day one" (referred to from the announcer as "Day 
from day one")


3. They're doing some basketball rap (referred to as "Basket")


Thanks!!
BENgt

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:30:45 +0000
From: "Luke Wilson"<Luke_Wilson@fwuk.fwc.com>
Subject: covers and the like

Just to chuck my hat into the ring..

On the topic of covers, well what about "Maybe I'm Amazed" by Paul
McCartney. Heard it on Virgin radio couple of days back, and reckon it'd
sound pretty damn awesome cover by a certain three-piece. Also, what about
Not the Girl You Think You Are by Crowded House (for those of you who know
me I had to have one, ok?) - the simple-ish chord progression at the start
- - I can already see and hear Ben playing it, and Darren and Rob could
harmonise over "he won't deceive you/or tell you the truth", you know, just
"aah"'s, if that makes any sense.

And as for Weezer, yes Say It Ain't So would be pretty damn fine, but what
about No One Else, or The Sweater Song...

Eye than kyow

Luke

"And with a stroke of luck, the helicopter also managed to avoid an old
lady on top of a pole." Chris Morris

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Kahl <grover918@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fame and the Quandry That Lies Therein

Ben Folds Five?  Assholes?  Who cares.

They make great great music.

I submit for your edification a SHORT list (that could very easily be
a long one) of great musicians and other famous people who are
respected despite their assholedom.

John "Cougar or not Cougar" Mellencamp- pays someone to follow him
around with a pack of Lucky Strikes and a lighter, in case he gets the
urge.. no sense in using one's own pocket.

David Letterman- everyone who knows him (yes, including his mom) say
that he's as big of a jerk off the air as he is on the show... but
he's funny, right?

LeAnn Rhimes- once cut in front of me at a movie theatre with her
entourage of 8 preteen groupies, and then was given free tickets to an
R rated show (not yet even the ripe old age of 17 was she when I had
this encounter) .. okay, I admit that wasn't a good illustration, I
just wanted to bitch for a second.

...and the biggest most talented asshole of all time...

Sting- who once, during practice, tried to kill his guitarist (in the
oh so happy Police days) with a switchblade he had concealed in a
"make-up" bouquet of flowers.

In short, assholes make good music.  I'd like to believe that Ben and
the guys are as fun and as quirky as they seem, but that may not be
true.  If not, so be it.  Assholes make good music.

hand me my nosering,
the other Grover



 
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:29:47 -0700
From: "Kamp, Marcus S" <Marcus.Kamp@PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: Sessions

www.rockontv.com says that the Sessions @ West 54th Street episode
w/Beck & BFF will be re-run on 1 August.  For those of you who missed it
the 1st time (like ME!!!), this is an excellent show.  Be sure to check
your local PBS listings, though, as some of the affiliates (like
MINE!!!) don't follow the national schedule. 

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 09:29:00 PDT 
From: "Leesa Barbon" <leesabarbon@hotmail.com>
Subject: Thank you to everyone

Howdy all.
	I just want to say you guys are great!!!! Whenever I have a question, 
within a few hours of posting it I get a bunch of resplys with answers. 
My last question 'Who is Kate' and I got the answer but I'm wondering if 
she is his ex, who would he right a song about her??? Also does anoyone 
know if Ben has kids??? 
	Thanks to everyone who answered about my question about the talking CD, 
I do have it. Whats with the hidden track???? 'Ben Folds is a fucking 
asshole' whats up with that???? THANKS
Cheers, Leesa

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