THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #1154 - August 3, 1998
Magical Armchair Digest Monday, August 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 1154
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
Sessions
SNL rerun
evaporated
London is the coolest city in the world (and yes, this post is bff related)
triple j interview
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1153
me want bootlegs, videos, articles etc.
Lucky Australians, bumper stickers, and Pop-Up Video.
ALL YOU PEOPLE!
Adelaide concert
VH1
Ground Zero????
ground zero
regarding the comments made by Ben Bradshaw
More Miscellaneous crap and the Fuji Rock Festival
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 21:36:42 EDT
From: Pyser98@aol.com
Subject: Sessions
grrr.
ok, when bff was on conan on july 16th (but actually aired the 17th), everyone
was aware that it was the night of the 16th. so, why cant this be the same for
sessions?
it aired the night of the 31st, at 12:30 (here in nj). but everyone promoted
it as the 1st of august. naturally, i thought it would be on the night of
august 1st, not the super-early morning of aug 1st.
there is inconsistency for ya. god damn! i missed it again!!
aaron
btw- heard BOWCCL at the local movie theater (before they play the coming
attractions, they just play music). so there is the bff content.
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 20:48:06 CDT
From: "Lauren Talbot" <muffyhead98@hotmail.com>
Subject: SNL rerun
I noticed when I was watching the Saturday Night Live rerun with BF5
that Ben looked so sad.....Was this because of the sadness of the song
Brick or was he just sad. I don't like seeing him sad. It makes me
sad. sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad. Don't miss BF5 on
Sessions of West 54th tonight!
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 21:19:06 -0500
From: Don Curtis <dec3@netexpress.net>
Subject: evaporated
i have a couple things to say about evaporated. Why the hell would it be a
continuation of brick...i mean, there isn't, in my opinion, any loss in
brick.
I mean, come on, sure he probably losses a kid or losses a girlfriend but this
is more than that. In evaporated he's not worrying about his relationship
ending because of something. He upset because he's been thrown away. He's
put
so much into a relationship but it all turned to nothing. Not for a reason,
not because impregnation, because of plain "i'm the girl and i don't like you
anymore ben" shit. Now i can see a point that you guys make but i don't
understand why he would say, "what i've kept with me, and what i've thrown
away" <-- this line is first person of the girl. She's thrown a relationship
away and that is that. and there is also no pouring your heart out about
sex.
"where the things i really cared about, JUST LEFT along the way" they left,
they weren't pushed away. He's also lost his mind because he doesn't know
what
to think. He's so depressed and everyone's probably like, "why are you so
hung
up on that girl". He has his reason, but it's his reason. The reason he
loved. Well, that was my persuasion. It's all i can give, all my opinion.
Thanx...bye
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:27:58 EDT
From: KrZy29@aol.com
Subject: London is the coolest city in the world (and yes, this post is bff related)
Well, i just came back from London...wow what a great city...anyway for a
week i went in search for anything BFF related...but alas, my search was not
going well...then i found the "Brick" single...which i wanted because it has
"She Don't use Jelly" on it...so i go back to the crappy hotel pop my newest
cd into my cd player and.....She dont use jelly was not on there...yes, i
actually cried...but it did have the Japanese version of Song for the Dumped
which kicks ass! but i was still sad and loosing hope that i would find
anything else...then i found a little tiny CD shop that was the size of my
closet...and what do u know...i found the "Kate" single...which has "Bad Idea"
and "For all the pretty people"!!!!! So, the point of my on going typing you
ask??....I'm so extremely happy...and i thank the fans of London for having
such a damn cool city!!! =)
Oh and i just have to comment on the age thing..i've loved BFF well, forever
it seems but i am only 15...so fellow young ones...we cant blame everyone for
sterotyping...we all know(and have wanted to kill) those girls who are exactly
like the way whoever started this thing described...so lets just drop this
dumb battle...even though i know i'm not helping by commenting but..oh well!
damn this post is long for me,
Kristina
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:50:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jordan W." <tuo2@rocketmail.com>
Subject: triple j interview
ok, i have encoded the triple j interview in realaudio.
i now know it works too (thanks ginger :)
it's at
http://www.geocities.com/timessquare/battlefield/8540/ben.html
and if you people want me to encode the recovery
interview, mail me cos i might be able to host it at
a university.
anything else?
still looking for bootlegs of the aussie show.
i love sleep
Jordan
"i've been kicking it in the USA, i got the master
plan up my sleeve, i'm gonna roll some cheap bud then
i'm gonna leave" Robert Sledge, kicking it old school.
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:54:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: "E. Helzer" <oh_fine@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #1153
> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 11:28:41 -0400
> From: cherry@idirect.ca
> Subject: i am mad mad mad mad fumming mad
>
> Scroll if you like, full of my rantings.
>
> I AM SO MAD!!!!
>
> I went to this record store in Hamilton yesterday and they had the BFF
> promotional poster or shipment poster (I don't know) for NBP and I
freaked
> out of my mind. When do we ever see these? I have the promotional
one for
> WAEA but not the NBP. So I run to the cashier to try and
buy/claim/take the
> poster and guess what the guy said...
>
> "Oh...we could give it to you, but the staff has first choice of
> posters...come back later and see if it's still here...than you can
have it."
> There goes my business.
>
> For crying out loud, I live 50 minutes away! And the subway doesn't go
> there , only the GO train does but then you have to change a million
times
> on the bus.
>
With all due respect, I think that there policy is fair. I know if I
was working there and had my eye on the poster I'd be furious if some
fan just came by and grabbed it. Employees should have first dibs.
Sorry, Erik
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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 14:13:09 +1000
From: Christine Ko <s365927@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: me want bootlegs, videos, articles etc.
hmmm, when did there get to be so many brisbane people on this list?? i was
on this list last year and there was like no one from brisbane, well if
they were there they didn't post! anyway now i regret i ever left the list
cos i didn't get to meet up with the brisbane MAers. BOOOO for me. and i
see this whole brick fans thing is still going on.
anyway, would anyone be willing to sell me copies of stuff they have?? like
bootlegs, tv appearances (esp. australian stuff), articles etc.. etc...
people always seem to want trades in return but i can't exactly trade when
i have nothing to offer!!! and that person who wanted kind people to tape
stuff for them, i know how you feel and i would tape stuff for you if i had
any!!
christine :o)
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 01:41:20 -0400
From: "Leigh Nelson" <leigh13@mindless.com>
Subject: Lucky Australians, bumper stickers, and Pop-Up Video.
Mel/Erin <gumbi_s@yahoo.com> wrote in MA #1152:
>Jackson Cannery
>Philosophy
>Best Imitation
>Selfless, cold & composed
>Video "Written in high school ... i never thought i'd be playing it
>about a million years later in Australia..."
Figures. I see this band live nine times in 1998 and I don't get to hear
Jackson Cannery, Best Imitation of Myself, or Video even one time. You
Australians have all the luck, I tell you! I still have yet to see Video
live--I figured for all purposes it had been retired. Just like Rob said
they wouldn't be playing Jackson Cannery too much any more. Yeah
right--just for the shows when I'm there, I bet.
How about this--my friend said she saw a yellow Trakker with a homemade BFF
sticker in the back window the other day. I wonder whose it was? :-) (Yeah
Brooke!)
And, for those of y'all who saw Pop-Up video, I know you were laughing when
you read the part about Robert losing his wallet in the water. I sure was!
Still, they didn't explain why they used a 13 year-old actress to play "the
girl"...
- - Leigh 13
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 01:35:32 EDT
From: Tiramat@aol.com
Subject: ALL YOU PEOPLE!
In a message dated 8/1/98 10:48:00 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, owner-
armchair@maillist.il.fontys.nl writes:
<< Ok, I apologize ahead of time for the question that has me perplexed. It
may
seem offensive but in reality it's not a bad quesiton. Now, please dont get
offended. Alright, here goes. . . Are there any black (African American) BFF
fans. . . ? There I said it. Now, don't think I'm racist, in fact I have a
thing for black guys. Thing is, I've never seen a black person at a concert
and since I love black guys and I love BFF i thought maybe someone has it
all.
Although I've yet to find this person. Please just let me know if they exist
and if you are one I'd love to hear from you. Email at LIBJAD43@aol.com.
Thanks and sorry again to be a little off course. See ya later~.
- -Libbie >>
I can't believe your post. You're referring to black people as if they're a
seperate kind of creature... "I have a thing for black guys". Hah. That's all
I have to say, sorry, had to get it out.
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 22:39:09 PDT
From: "Maire Torry" <moika18@hotmail.com>
Subject: Adelaide concert
Just thought y'all might wanna know about the BFF show at Thebarton
Theatre, Adelaide, South Australia. It was over a week ago now, but I
have been recovering from the impact of the concert and that's why I
didn't submit my thoughts until now (not a bad excuse if I do say so
myself). I've been to several concerts in SA now, and I can honestly
say I have never seen an Adelaide concert go off like that. Normally all
the geriatrics in this town are too busy complaining about the noise
level at concerts to get into the music, but the Theby theatre rocked on
Thursday 23rd July. The energy of these guys was incredible. I've only
been a real BFF fan for a few months now, but I realise after that
concert that Ben, Robert and Darren are true music legends. They are all
individually extremely talented, and together they are magic. They
played a fair bit of stuff from BFF, and less from WEAE, but it made me
appreciate the first album which I hadn't heard any of until the
concert. The only disappointing thing about the show was the one
dickhead in the audience who took it upon himself to pay out Robert with
insults along the highly intellectual lines of "geek". Ben responded to
this by demonstrating his newly found understanding of the Aussie word
"bogan". Congrats to Ben for being so quick with that one. I thought
Robert and Darren's harmonies were spine-tinglingly spot on, Ben's
melodica playing was great, and the highlight was "Steven's Last Night
in Town". Thanks for acknowledging my banter, guys.
Maire.
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 01:40:59 EDT
From: Emmaline20@aol.com
Subject: VH1
I was saddened by the loss of Robert's wallet during the taping of the video
for "Brick." Was seeing "Brick" popped up weird for anyone else or was it just
me? Also....was Robert the hamburger griller or Darren?? Perhaps they had the
same job...in any event, I think the additions of the cane and the spatula
were needed. :)
Sarah :)
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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 00:21:41 PDT
From: "Maree Fewster" <ree37@hotmail.com>
Subject: Ground Zero????
Hello there,
Um, I am dumb and I forgot to tape Ben Folds Five on Ground Zero last
night! Did anyone see it or tape it?!?!?!?!? Or could someone at least
let me know what they were like on the show?
Thaaaankssss, that would be terriff!
Maree
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 00:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lisa Porter <minkimoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: ground zero
Yes, I watched ground zero- I, too, stayed up through the mountains of
drivel that show churns out. Anyhoo, I imagine any show that bleeps
the word "crack" out of "don't you know who I am" is a little too
mainstream (and tightly censored) to play anything with the "f"
word...even the "b" word... I was disappointed (especially given my
battle with the VCR) that they didn't play more of the interview but
thems the breaks. Did anyone get the full version on the radio? (I
am assuming this is where it came from.)
No offence intended re: query in last post. I seriously wasn't
allowed out at age 14... oh how times change...hand me that walking
stick will you?
Ela
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:05:32 +1200
From: virgil99@ihug.co.nz (Dave)
Subject: regarding the comments made by Ben Bradshaw
not to be ratting on Ben....however, there are some things about his
opinions that were expressed in the past volume of the armchair are
somewhat harsh.
however .....ahveing said that ....they are also true.....
I think there has been an immense overkill on two different letters coming
into the armchair: (1) The 'Il love BFF' letter and (2) the i hate
teenybopper fans
cant we all come to some form of agreement that BFF is a fantastic band and
that there are some younger fans that are making 'older fans' feel a little
intimidated. I think we can saftley say that brick is a good song however,
these conversations about who is a 'bigger' fan are depressing me.......
IF SOMEONE SAYS THEY ARE A FAN......JST LEAE IT AT THAT.......STOP FEELING
SO TERRITORIAL!!!!!
Some people on this list are beginning to act like 8 year olds purley to
prove that they like a band more than another person........people should
get over thamselves
Thats my thought for the day
sorry for the spelling errors!!
Dave
'The New Zeaand Yankee'
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:44:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Edward A. Weinstein" <wein0047@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: More Miscellaneous crap and the Fuji Rock Festival
I just got back from the Fuji Rock Festival and Ben and his clan were all
seeming to be very happy that the touring was finally over for at least a
little while. I don't remember what the set list was off the top of my
head (but I assure you I will get one together), but I do know that they
played "Kane kaese" as the finale and that they did not play "Brick."
They layed -- Emaline, Underground, One Angry Dwarf, Battle of Who Could
Care Less, Jackson Cannery, Philosophy, Steven's Last Night in Town (ben
changed the ending bit to "last night on tour") and others. I can't
remember the order, but I'll have something up soon.
I was also lucky enough to get backstage (the next pretty girl to see Doug
Goodman or Alan Wolmark-- give them a big kiss and tell them it's from
me... Id do it myself, but I doubt t would man as much) and get some
photos from behind the scenes as the lads did interviews and such. I was
planning on putting up a full rundown and some pictures for the Japanese
site, but if there's anough interest, I'll put the text and pictures into
English under a seperate URL... let me know if ya'll want to see it (it'll
take a couple weeks though).
Also, while I was unable to pick any up, I did discover that the Shinko
Music editions of the BFF music have gone into print again. The secong
printing of the Whatever and Ever Amen band score is dated 7/2/98, and a
third printing of the piano score is dated 12/23/97... so there is yet
hope. Although it's written in English inside the books "it is unlawful
to sell or distribute this book outside of Japan" or something to that
effect.
And on a closing note, while I really don't want to get involved in the
"who's a real/better fan" debate, all ya'll should have stood where I was
a couple hours ago and watched the tears streaming down the cheeks of the
pretty young lady next to me when the band went on.
Ed
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