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The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #1545 - May 24, 1999



Magical Armchair Digest     Monday, May 24 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1545



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    NO BOUNDARIES
    san francisco
    George, the almight cutter and paster...
    BFF mix tape
    BFF Dream
    bff in new york city
    thank yous, hatred, George, idiocy, and repeat posts (long)
    RE: t-shirts
    BFF hat
    So who just is the real asshole on this listserv?
    they've hit the big time
    nothing
    No Moshing Allowed Vol. IV

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:36:18 EDT
From: Snlpiscopo@aol.com
Subject: NO BOUNDARIES

That new Compilaion album for the Koso Refuges with pearl jam's last kiss 
cover and stuff ALSO FEATURES BEN FOLDS FIVE. I got this in an email from 
sony   
<<<The artists confirmed 
to appear on No Boundaries are Pearl Jam, Rage 
Against The Machine, Alanis Morissette, Neil Young, 
Oasis, KoRn, Black Sabbath, Indigo Girls, Ben Folds Five, 
Peter Gabriel, The Wallflowers, Sarah McLachlan, 
Bush, Tori Amos, and Jamiroquai>>>

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:17:52 EDT
From: Mookie9@aol.com
Subject: san francisco

hi, its me again,
this time Im wondering if anyone in the san francisco area can fill me in on 
the show on june 13th. i.e., what kind of venue is it, how much are tickets, 
general or reserved seating?
reply to <mookie9@aol.com>
thanks
  molly

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:49:07 PDT
From: "Heather Kniert" <hkniert@hotmail.com>
Subject: George, the almight cutter and paster...

I, for one, am jealous of George's cutting and pasting abilities.  I find it 
useful for references and information.  Plus, I'm jealous becaue I haven't 
mastered the fine art of cutting and pasting when I reply to the MA.

WAY TO GO GEORGE!  YOU ARE MY HERO!!!

Heather Grace (by the way I'm being very SERIOUS!)


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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:58:50 PDT
From: "Alex Ring" <web_in_front@hotmail.com>
Subject: BFF mix tape

Hello all!

Ok...I have a little request.  I am planning on making a Ben Folds Five mix 
tape.  And I am at a loss of what to pick.  If you guys could help out that 
would be awesome.  It can be album tracks, demos, or (this would be 
appreciated) if you know of any especially good live versions of songs give 
me the info about the show and I just might have it (I have about 40+ tapes 
so it is possible that I may)

So if you feel like helping me out write me at web_in_front@hotmail.com with 
the subject:BFF mix tape.

Thanx alot everybody!!

Alex Ring
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:07:29 GMT
From: "Monique Bowley..." <beaniefour@hotmail.com>
Subject: BFF Dream

I had a weird ass dream about BFF concert in Canberra, Australia.  Because 
this "city" is known as a cemetary with the lights on, I went to this 
concert only to find a mediocre crowd who were all too happy to sit in seats 
bout 20m from the stage leaving no one in the general area.  So there I was, 
with my camera, video camera, screaming and dancing, and ben started posing 
for all these pictures.  They were playing KATE and my friend Kate was with 
me so we were going off, then the concert like stopped all of a sudden and 
everyone left and Ben, Darren and Robert all sat down in these chairs on the 
stage and I was there with them telling how much they rocked and taking 
photos with them...uhhhh...it was mighty fine...too bad it was only a 
dream...but they will be here on the 26th of August - I'm counting down the 
days...cant wait.

Monique


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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:36:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jenny  Harrison <jh593@columbia.edu>
Subject: bff in new york city

although the official site does say that ben folds five will be at the
summerstage on th 24th the summer stage website has no acts confirmed for
that day. 

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:02:13 PDT
From: "Aimer Hater" <i_hate_aimer@hotmail.com>
Subject: thank yous, hatred, George, idiocy, and repeat posts (long)

First of all, I want to thank those of you who were kind enough to send me 
such intelligent hate mail.  Calling what I wrote a "flame" I found 
interesting, since it was simply sarcasm, which is simply a less intelligent 
form of satire.  I must admit that I *do* realize how mailing lists work, 
and that I should have expected to see many people who I thought posted 
pointless and pathetic things.  Anyone who was even remotely insulted by 
what I wrote should really re-evaluate their lives.  If you took me that 
seriously, you have tremendous insecurity problems and there are plenty of 
therapists out there that could help you get a life.

I hope you realize that calling me a "moron" won't really get you anywhere.  
After all, I'm not one of those people who thought "Brick" wasn't about 
abortion.  Remember this:  I hate *everyone*, so don't take it so 
personally.

Now, the point which I didn't really elucidate in the previous e-mail, how 
to handle multiple posts (i.e. the French in "YRP").  How about this?  If 
someone asks a question similar to the previous one, anyone who feels like 
it can e-mail them personally!  What an odd concept, eh?  Then, once that 
person has sifted through the 6000 e-mails in response to their question, 
they _alone_ can post to the 'Chair explaining what they've learned about 
it.  Then (you might see where this is leading) everyone only has to read 
ONE post on the subject!  WOW!  Can you imagine such a thing?

Now, I know that I'll get flamed for this post just like I did for the 
previous one, so I thought I should say this now.  If you don't like what I 
have to say, why are you still reading this post?

Your much-maligned George Fan,
AH

p.s. thank you mich joe for your brilliant commentary on my last post.  Your 
ideas are simply amazing and I'm in awe of your brief but enlightening 
e-mail.  What grade are you in?


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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:43:34 -0500
From: "Don Curtis" <dcurtis@iastate.edu>
Subject: RE: t-shirts

don't send money yet, gotta figure some stuff out, i'm not responsible, uh,
whoever sent it, i think randy or sumthing, email me, i'm gonna need to know
this so, lemme know if it was you.  l8r

[ -----Original Message-----
[ From: Don Curtis [mailto:dcurtis@iastate.edu]
[ Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:57 PM
[ To: 'armchair@maillist.il.fontys.nl'
[ Subject: t-shirts
[ 
[ 
[ ok, everyone hold their pants on, i'm scared because i don't 
[ think i can get the shirts out in time, i guess i can try.  
[ so i'll be emailing the people who i ahve on the list.  later
[ 

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:34:27 PDT
From: "Alex Ring" <web_in_front@hotmail.com>
Subject: BFF hat

Hey there!

I was wondering if anybody had one of the new Ben Folds Five hats that they 
didn't want anymore.  I wanted to get one in Toronto but I had no cash.  I 
would be willing to buy or trade maybe some bootlegs (CD or tape) for it.

BTW did anybody know what the theremin-like thing that Robert had on stage 
at some of the shows was???

BTW #2 did anybody tape he show in Toronto at the Guvernment????

Thanx alot y'all

Alex


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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 01:03:55 EDT
From: Pianogtar@aol.com
Subject: So who just is the real asshole on this listserv?

<<Correct me if I am wrong, BUT THERE IS NO FRENCH
LYRICS IN "REGRETS"!!!!!  It's in "Your Redneck Past".
 How many people have been saying it's in "Regrets"?!!
 Geesh, idiots!>>

What if a french person had Regrets??  Well it is just a thought.

<<This is my first post on MA.  But so far this has been really cool,>>

Wait until you get purposelessly flamed, then you will think differently.

<<Just an after thought...does anyone else think that Ben looks like the 
cartoon Grinch who stole Christmas?>>

I think that ben looks like sherlock holmes. well he does in one of the press 
photos.

<<to: asshole >>

I love it when people like to write to themselves.

<<<rudeboy@mindless.com>>>

Well sums up his 2 predominant qualities doesn't it.

<<your time?  your precious time?  oh please, just skip the damn message (as 
you
say so below!) if it's not worth your time.  we're not posting on the armchair
in mind of your time, we're posting to talk about ben folds five.>>

What about the Arphropod that found the time to climb into your prosterior? 
What about it's precious time, that is what I want to know about.

<<we're just trying to keep the armchair a friendly place.  when all a person
does is flames other posters and stays completely off topic, a problem 
arises>>

Yep then you say your the anti george and george should be kicked off the 
armchair when in fact you should email george to get mad at him (not in front 
of everyone) and you should email Frank Maynard personally if you wanted to 
see him go.

<<yeah. asshole. that sounds about right.  next time, keep your uneducated 
flames
to yourself.  they aren't wanted here.>>

Yeah but yours are? >:/

<<sommigen zullen wel zeggen dat ik een dromer ben...>>

Isn't that at the begining of that Offspring song? Not that I care for the 
Offspring.

<<As I'm a bit dense, I was wondering if about 4000 more people could send me 
the french translation of "your redneck past".  I can usually get it after 
reading it for about the 18000th time, but it just didn't happen.  So, if 
anyone could help me out here, thanks.>>

I could, but I don't speak french.

<<Also, I was wondering if all of you people could please waste my time a bit 
more by arguing whether or not george is an ass.  I love reading everyone's 
opinion about a guy who could very easily be ignored by all.  It's called 
SCROLLING DOWN.  If you don't like what the guy has to say, then try not to 
read it.  I had initially joined this list for the occasional nugget of 
useful info, followed by a completely irrelavent line of useless blather 
about people like George>>

What is so wrong with people like George. I like George, he is a funny guy, 
if you don't want to hear about George then scroll down......oh wait, You 
think like me, cool, then we agree then.

<<Idiots...>>

Now, now, not everyone on here is an idiot, just those who like to flame 
publicly in an  uncreative manner.  And besides there are a lot of nice 
people who don't like to flame period.

<<with love,
asshole>>

Did you change your name from rudeboy to Asshole, I am just curious?

<<'anti-gavin'>>

What did Gavin do to get hated?


<<there re three types of hidden tracks s far as I know:

1. At the end of the last song after a long pause (the classic one ;-)

2. BEFORE the first song, only accessible by searching backwards (I have
one CD of this kind)

3. the rather dull variant: a track just not named on the cover or in
the booklet

enough of the "wonders of music" lesson for today ;-)))>>

I think I tried to say that, but you probably scrolled down.

<<Snlpiscopo@aol.com (sorry, i dont know your name dude) wrote :

> I'm not Guillame (sp?), the french ben folds five fan (Nice Site, Man).

Sean Kiely wrote :

> if guillame can do better, I tip my hat to him

Guys, lets clear it all up, my name is Guillaume. Yo, thats the french name
for William. Its funny, everyone always make the same mistake when spelling
my name. Whats wrong with "U"s ? :) Anyway, i still like you ;) I just
couldnt let the same mistake happen more than twice ;)

Sorry for the nontent. Take care and may the folds be with you,

     GuillaUme, aka the french bastard ;p
______________________________________________>>

If i were to ask anyone about the french translation of "your redneck past" I 
believe it would be Guillaume,  yes he has a U in his name.. And besides my 
count is up to 3 assholes and one bastard on this listserv.


<<Love Peace and Hair Grease,>>

Well if your in it for that on the ma, then I guess your only going to get 
the Hair Grease.

<>

I don't know, Ask Frank Maynard.

<>

Bought it used for $2.50

<<pianogtar - (IMO) needs to be kicked off this list. his posts are rarely on 
topic (OR informative, for that matter) and are usually (of late) 
inflammatory in nature - they tend to be personal responses which i think are 
better suited for private e-mail...>>

Why, why kick pianogtar off, he is such a nice guy, If anyone gets disturbed 
because of his posting then it probably means that they have mental problems.


<<and posts ABOUT him have grown to 
ridiculous proportions >>

They are suited for private email.

<<(not to mention all the damn french lessons we've 
been getting)>>

Is that for the song Regrets or Your Redneck Past?

<< I must say that in the past year I have been on this list the only really 
interesting or entertaining things to happen are when people squabble. I 
remember when the people from The Rockford Files came back for a month and 
stirred everything up, and now we have George doing his little MST3K thing 
only with The Armchair, and I say let him. I haven't been reading The Magical 
Armchair much lately but I must say that as long as George is on here 
speaking his mind I will actually read it every day, and if anyone says that 
it detracts from the content of the digest I was just wondering how many 
times can you see people ask about the Gershwin thing at the beginning of 
Philosophy or if Brick is about abortion before you realize that the content 
of the armchair usually is repetitive...>>

Please read, and have fun with it, you see, it's all good, this guy 
understands completely.  and you know the next 2 repetative topics you can 
add to that list are Ben and Frally, And French lessions.

>>>You know the men who do use porn are those that end up dating >miss
Michigan.

you say that like it's a good thing.

stewart.<<

You know, it all depends on how your love life is going

<<ok ok ok....i think this nut who says theres a hidden track is probably 
confused with the BONUS (not hidden at all) track on TUBORM which would be 
"(theme from) Dr. Pyser" which is track 12 on the Australian version. BTW, 
it's nice to have a strings version of this finally that isn't an MP3.>>

You can also get it on Teleconned in america, I hope you knew that.


George

I love puppies.

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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 01:12:24 EDT
From: Nrcolptk@aol.com
Subject: they've hit the big time

Hi.  For those of you keeping tabs on how exposed, some would argue overly 
so, BF5 has been lately  ( I know after the "Brick" fiasco some is us are a 
little sensitive to BFF overkill in the media),  I thought you all should be 
aware that "Who are Ben Folds Five" appeared as an answer on Rock and Roll 
Jeopardy.  Surely this is a sign that the boys have hit the big time... 
again.  Get ready to hear "Army" 24-7!!  Not that that would be such a bad 
thing...I'm hooked on the honky-tonk section and have almost got it down on 
the piano.  However, Dexy's Midnight Runners was also an answer (or a 
question I guess) on the show too,  so who knows what this all means. Sorry 
for this imcomplete meditation on the boys' growing fame, but  I just 
finished my finals and my brain can only handle VH1 at this point.   >>  Any 
guesses on where the Worcester show will be played, if it does in fact 
materialize?  I'm thinking the Palladium.  "The wind don't blow, and the 
grass don't grow.." --Sliver Street.  Sounds a lot like Worcester doesn't it. 
 Apologies in advance to those who live there--it's just my obligation as a 
New Englander to stick in a Worcester comment every now and again. :) >> and 
why has everyone been so negative towards "Regrets"?  I love the synth 
groove, and Robert's working his magic as usual.  Later.
Allison

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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 01:16:22 EDT
From: Eze114@aol.com
Subject: nothing

There was a little snippet of Army on MTV House of Style today. I was 
excited. -Erin

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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 01:23:58 -0400
From: "Dr. Pyser" <mhirsch@clarku.edu>
Subject: No Moshing Allowed Vol. IV

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Hey y'all! =20

This is getting sent out to the Armchair and the Bootlegs@topica list, =
so sorry if some y'all getting this twice.  my name is mike hirsch.  =
some of you guys may know me because i am the guy who made the (what i =
hope are now infamous) No Moshing Allowed (NMA) tapes.  if you dont know =
what they are, they are a collection of live songs i have taken off of =
tapes in bootleg collection.  it is pretty much a best of Ben Folds Five =
Live tape (picking up where Naked Baby Photos left off).  Since i have =
getting about 10 emails a day requested a fourth one with the stuff from =
Reinhold Messener (look at how cool i am not using the acronym..oooh), i =
am going to make one.  basically, i want y'all to help me out.  email me =
and tell me what songs you want to be on this volume.  it can be old or =
new stuff, whatever.  if you really want to be awesome, you can go to =
the site listed below and pick out songs out of my bootleg collection to =
be on the tapes:

http://webdreg.simplenet.com/hirsch/Bootlegs/bff.html

if you want to see what is on the first 3 NMA tapes, then go here:

http://webdreg.simplenet.com/hirsch/bff/moshing.html

alright, a few more things to plug my page.  i am a tape trader and have =
over 60 sixty artists traded on my site.  the links at the bottom of =
this email will guide you there.  and for those you who like the Ben =
Folds Five NMA tapes, i also have similar tapes for Guster, Barenaked =
Ladies, Tori Amos, and Radiohead (all live!  all made by me!).  finally, =
i have a lot of the new 1999 BFF tour shows and will be getting more.  =
alright, well, thank you very much for listening and if youre like me, =
then you would have stopped reading this message long ago.

thanks a lot!
mike hirsch
http://webdreg.simplenet.com/hirsch/

ps the hidden track on TUBORM is saying, "i wonder if the people on the =
armchair will ever understand the french we use in redneck past?  i =
certainly dont think theyll have the posts for a solid month talking =
about it."  and another hidden track (yes, there are TWO) says, "leave =
George, he justs wants to get his piece of the pie!  POWER TO THE =
PEOP...er..ah...George!"


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