THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR

The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #181 - February 7, 1997



                     THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #181
 
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Topics for Today:
 
      News from the band's management
      The hidden track...
      Re: Who put the buzz in Ben Folds Five?
      BFF
      BFF coming to Texas
      Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #180
      Can you find anything in Holland by BF5?
      No fair!
      Tour Dates
      Q REVIEW (I'm a Poet and I.........Nevermind)
      Battle of Who Could Care Less UK CDsingle info
      praying for the show!
      Postcard....
      I'VE GOT THE NEW ALBUM!!!!!!!
      japanese import
      KSCA
      BEN FOLDS FIVE COVERS OASIS
      Ben Folds in New Orleans
      Anything!!
      touring with?
      Alice Childress & Ghost Tracks
      Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #180
      NME
      BF5 in Glasgow
      ben on tv
      Re: Pots & Pans
      I'm confused...
      BFF: interesting idea
      Ben Folds
      Re: "Pink On White Walls" CMJ MISTAKE!!!
      Other bands
      Second Coming!!!
      NME
      RE: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #180
      Ben on a Bus Stop recording???
      when?
      snobbery in music. hmmmmmmm.....
      Five Fold iss. #2
      RE: Q (March 1997 issue) + other news...
 
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 [First, some news you've all been waiting for, from Alan Wolmark, Ben
 Folds Five's manager. This will answer a lot of questions that have been
 asked lately.]

 Some updated news from the management office:

 1.  We will be announcing a very extensive US tour shortly that will bring
 Ben Folds Five to just about every area that fans on the Magical Armchair
 have been asking about.

 2.   After some local, hometown area gigs, the tour WILL start with Counting
 Crows on March 31 and go through Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, Berkeley,
 Irvine and San Diego. The tour will continue on into June with a two-week
 break to go to Japan.  All dates to follow very soon.

 3.   We are trying our best to keep everyone up-to-date about BFF activities
 and have arranged for all previous mailing lists (all those sent into
 Caroline and all those signed up on our tours) to be added to the band's
 current mailing list based out of Chapel Hill and the one maintained by Sony.
 We hope communications will come up regularly and with some cool surprises.
 We are also maintaining lists for everyone who has signed up or mailed in
 from the UK, Europe, Japan and Australia.

 4.   The official Ben Folds Five website (http://www.bffweb.com) will be up
 in a couple of days, but please bear with us since it will still be "under
 construction" for awhile.  Meanwhile, when it hits you will be able to access
 tour dates, news, sound bites, interview bits, portions of the EPK, the new
 video for the single "Battle of Who Could Care Less" and finally be able to
 get T-shirts, a wool cap and a Japanese import Ben Folds Five song portfolio
 for piano and vocals, signed by Ben, with all the songs from the first album
 plus "Tom & Mary."

 5.   In response to all the questions about why the staggered release
 schedule around the world  .........  Too often bands release records and
 then have to burn themselves out traveling around the world to quickly get to
 all the places that want to see them perform live. By staggering the
 releases, the band can get to Europe and Scandinavia when the record comes
 out there and then have plenty of time to do the extensive touring they would
 like to do in the United States with minimal interruptions.  It is only
 because of the staggered releases that BFF will be able to get to so many US
 towns on their first time 'round on this album!  ..............  Hopefully
 you'll start hearing BFF soon when the single "Battle of Who Could Care Less"
 gets released to radio in mid-February.

 And finally, I cannot tell you how much the band and I appreciate all of your
 relentless, enthusiastic support of BFF.  The guys can't wait to get back on
 the road.

 Thank you.

 Alan Wolmark
 CEC Management

 [Now on to the Armchair:]

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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 13:48:45 +0000
 From: Nick VINCENT <N.Vincent@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
 Subject: The hidden track...

 THe hidden track on Whatever and Ever Amen, was, unless they did it
 somewhere else too, recorded at the first gig of the last UK tour, at
 Dingwalls.

 Ben ushered on a bloke, who I believe to be a manager of some sort, and said
 "Let's do the hidden track" or words to that effect.

 Bloke then utters a profanity about Ben, and everyone boos.

 "They love ya, man" says Mr Sledge...

 So I reckon it was then.

 Nick

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:06:59 -0500 (EST)
 From: AGottl5648@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Who put the buzz in Ben Folds Five?

 Wow, y'all,

 This mailing list has certainly picked up since the announced release date of
 the new album...I'm just as excited as everybody.  By the way, will there be
 a song on the upcoming CMJ sampler to ease my appetite until the genuine
 article comes out?

 << I've heard of a
   song BY Ben Folds Five called "Pink on White Walls!!"
   Where is this darn song...nobody seems to know about it?! >>

 The only person I know who sings a song called "Pink on White Walls" is Paul
 Weller on his recent release called Stanley Road.  I think it's a pretty good
 song for BFF to cover.

 Until March then (or until I think of something creative to say),

 Adam

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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:16:47 +0000
 From: Jaime Hargreaves <cs96jjh@brunel.ac.uk>
 Subject: BFF

 Hiya all!

 Just a quick post to the person who wrote in about claiming the neck of
 the guitar at the Astoria gig in Nov - yeah, we thought that it was
 really cool the way you faught like children for half of the set.  Do
 you know how many people you hurt whilst wrestling for it?  The amount
 of people you severly pissed off during the gig was enormous - the only
 downside to an otherwise awesome night.  Sorry all!

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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:27:19 -0700 (MST)
 From: DMJ@ACES.COM
 Subject: BFF coming to Texas

 Okay, I was a little bit looped that night, but I'm pretty sure I didn't
 dream this up...

 The other night, I was out at a local Houston club, the Blue Iguana, and
 there was a cool Austin band playing... El Flaco.  After their set, I
 talked with a couple members of the band, and one of 'em mentioned that
 they will be opening for BFF at the Urban Art Bar in April.  Coooool!

 (Sorry Bluejay!  Heh...)

 --Don

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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:21:33 -0500
 From: luke deans <lpd105@psu.edu>
 Subject: Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #180

 This is the first time that I have posted here so bare with me.  I have
 been a Ben Folds Five fan since last June.  They are soooooooo incredible.
 I was wondering if anyone knew if they were going to come and play some
 shows on the east coast(pittsburgh, pa).  Now this has nothing to do with
 Ben Folds Five . . . does anyone know if the Counting Crows and the
 Barenaked Ladies are coming to the east coast.  please respond if u have
 any information.  thanx

 luke deans

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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:50:57 +0100
 From: Xander du Bois <iksman@pi.net>
 Subject: Can you find anything in Holland by BF5?

 Hi, this is a question for BF5 fans in Holland. I hope there are any
 that read this. I live in Amsterdam and I can't find anything by BF5
 (except for their debut-album ofcourse). I have been looking for
 CD-Singles, but I haven't found any. Does anybody in Holland know a
 shop where they sell them? If you know please mail me. See you all the
 18th of March in 'De Melkweg'.
 Xander du Bois

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:37:07 GMT
 From: Mark Piper <pipermf@ugs1.ph.bham.ac.uk>
 Subject: No fair!

 Pat Meusel asked:..

 >  Does anyone know the source of the hidden stuff at the end of track 12?  It
 >  comes in at 5:28 on Evaporated - someone yelling from what sounds like a
 >  stage.
 >

 Hmm, there's one thing you're forgetting, Pat, my friend...We mere mortals
 haven't heard the album yet, yer jammy b*****d!. Of course, if you'd like
 to send me a copy of the CD, I'll gladly investigate for you..... >8)

 On another tack, was the "Shut Up And Listen to Majosha" on general
 release (if you get my meaning)? Would there be any chance I might find it
 in a record store over here in the UK? Does anyone in the UK have a
 copy??? "Kalamazoo" is one of my favourite t racks on the demo tapes.

 Oh, and it's of no use to anyone really, but on Radio 1, you know they
 have that little trailer that goes "More...new....music" and then play
 some snippets??? Well, the latest one features Ben Folds Five and the
 tiniest snippet of Battle Of Who Could Care
  Less. See, I told you it was no use....

 Mark
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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:45:57 -0500 (EST)
 From: Michael Scott Thomas <msthomas@wam.umd.edu>
 Subject: Tour Dates


 I don't want to waste time or space so I will get to the point.  I think
 it would be nice if we could get an accurate listing of all the known (or
 unknown) BF5 tour dates.  I am extremely anxious to see where they will be
 playing in the near (or not-so-near) future.  Thanks.

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:38:30 -0800 (PST)
 From: Robert Mcgovern <mcrobert@hotmail.com>
 Subject: Q REVIEW (I'm a Poet and I.........Nevermind)

 If you live in the UK or Can get a copy  of the March copy of Q
 magazine.......do so.
 Inside there is a two page story about the band in Germany which is absolutly
 hilarious.

 The interview/story is written by Danny Eccleston who was hanging out with the
 band while they were being boredom, decides that it would be really funny if
 Danny Eccleston and  swop roles since non of the interviewers in Germany had
 ever seen the band before. Then Just for the fun of it the band begin to make
 up stupid answers for the interviews:

 German: "What are your ambitions?"

 Sledge:"To complete our mormon mission on bicycles."

 German:"Vhy do you have a piano?"

 Folds:"Why do you have a nose?"

 German:"What is your New Years resolution?"

 Jessee:'To Quit Jacking off. Specifically in my own mouth."

 And so on.........

 Finally there is the story of Ben and the drive by shooting.
 ___________
 "Dad roped me into this drive by shooting once,"he winces. "This dog had bitten
 him and he was really up for revenge. So he had me drive slowly around the
 neighborhood while he hid in the back with a .22 rifle. Thank God he missed."
 And that, insists Folds, is no word a lie.
 ___________
 If any one has any questions about the review or the article then e-mail me at
 this address

 mcrobert@hotmail.com

 later..............

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:37:28 +0000
 From: dl <dl@cates.demon.co.uk>
 Subject: Battle of Who Could Care Less UK CDsingle info

 Just got the commercial and promo CDsingles for 'BoWHCL'.

 Tracks on the Commercial (cat No: 664230) are...

 1) Battle of Who could Care Less - 3:17
 2) Champagne Supernova 1:33
 3) Theme from 'Dr Pyser' 2:02

 tracks 2 and 3 were recorded live @ LA2 London 26/11/96 (sound quality not
 so good).

 The version of BoWcCL on this single includes the 'Franklin f***ing
 Mint'and the weed reference.

 The promo CD single (cat no XPCD2125) contains only ...

 1) Battle of Who Could Care Less (Radio Edit) 3:16

 contains the weed reference and the 'Franklin f***ing Mint' as well, so
 it's not actually noticibly different at all from the 'normal' version. So
 no radio exposure for this song then.

 the covers on these releases are both different, but neither are anything
 to get excited about. The song is GREAT of course.

 DL

 >>
 dl@cates.demon.co.uk
 "If Elvis were my landlord, we'd all say stuff in
 the halls like '42 tennants can't be wrong'"
      -Bruce McCulloch
 >>

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 13:47:54 -0600
 From: Bergqvist <Kristin.M.Bergquist-1@tc.umn.edu>
 Subject: praying for the show!

 hey all!! i know youre TERRIBLY thrilled to hear from me...i've a
 question...just like ALL of the other questions..only hopefully not quite
 as repetetive...

 are the boys ONLY opening for CC in the US? or are they also doing their
 own tour?

 sitting here in minneapolis/pt paul and wondering why, o WHY are they not
 saying anything about playing our little towns? better yet...playing the
 university! ...ah, one can dream, can she not?
 at any rate...i appologize for this, no doubt, utter redundancy on my part.
 but if there is a soul so kind as to find an answer, i would be eternally
 indebted

 kristin
 **he who cannot draw on three-thousand years is living from hand to mouth**
 ***************wisest is she who knows she does not know*******************

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:07:51, -0500
 From: MS SANDI SHORTER <EPVJ98A@prodigy.com>
 Subject: Postcard....

 I've been getting these notes forever and haven't ever submitted
 anything, so I thought it was about time.  I live just south of
 Cleveland, Ohio.  I love Ben Folds Five but have only been able to
 catch 3 shows so far.  Seeing them live is a religious experience so
 I highly recommend it to everyone out there!  One of the shows I saw
 was while they were on the Lollapalooza tour.  The tickets ended up
 being (with all those service charges) $40.  Since I got there just
 in time to see BF5 and left right after they were finished, I figured
 out that I spent a dollar a minute to see them...but it was worth
 every penny!  I also am a Jellyfish fan.  Just what is the BF5-
 Jellyfish connection?  I really don't think they sound much like J-
 fish.  Anyway, I received the infamous postcard in the mail saying
 that the new album was finished but it didn't include a release date.
  Is the album still expected to be released on the originial date:
 March 18th?

 Sandi Shorter

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:50:46 +0000 (GMT)
 From: David Sandford <D.M.Sandford@Bradford.ac.uk>
 Subject: I'VE GOT THE NEW ALBUM!!!!!!!

 After a particularly successful blagging day at our Student rag, I've
 managed to land myself not only a copy of the new single (out Feb 10 in
 UK) BUT!!! a copy of the album as well (FIVE WEEKS EARLY!!!). I have only
 listened to it once, but it seems like typical Ben fare, only a lot more
 mellow and jazzy rather than the more bouncy nature of the first album.
 Particular favourites are Stevens last night in town and One angry
 dwarf... More comments when I actually manage to listen to it again.

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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:57:04 -0600
 From: Dan Mauer <dmauer@earthlink.net>
 Subject: japanese import

 >  TO ALL OF YOU WHO NEED THE JAPANESE VERSION WHY NOT MAKE A FEW PHONE
 CALLS TO
 >  THOSE OBSCURE RECORD STORES THAT ARE IN EVERY TOWN!!  TO PROVE MY
 POINT, I
 >  AM ORDERING MINE FROM JAPAN TOMORROW!!    I FOUND A PLACE THAT IS GOING TO
 >  ORDER IT ON THE CONDITION THAT I MAKE A SMALL DEPOSIT AND MAYBE PAY FOR THE
 >  SHIPPING!!!!  USE YOUR HEAD!!!!  IF THIS DOESNT WORK, TRY AND MAKE A
 CALL
 >  TO JAPAN!  YA NEVER KNOW!

 a couple things: first, please don't use all caps... it's the equivalent
 of screaming. :)

 Second, and more to the point...  the problem with ordering from a
 record store is that it will take 4-6 weeks (since it's from japan, more
 likely close to six) to get here, and then it will cost $30-$40.  The
 thing is, if we're gonna get it at the same time either way, it's
 certainly not worth an extra twenty bucks to me just to get the extra
 track, which I'm sure I'll be able to get a tape of from somebody
 sometime.

 Oh well.  Thanks for the advice, anyways...

 -dan.
  ____________________________________________________________
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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 18:25:26 -0600
 From: Dan Mauer <dmauer@earthlink.net>
 Subject: KSCA

 From: CAROLYN YOUNG <YOUNG@law3.law.ucla.edu>
 >  [KSCA] has really supported BF5, is the only one in LA I've ever
 >  heard play them, and it was at KSCA's 1995 Christmas show that I first
 >  heard the band (I went to see Barenaked Ladies and got this special bonus!).
 >  Anyway, the DJ couldn't stop raving about the album, and explained that
 >  she had to beg the record co. to let her play a track early.  You see,
 >  the sad part of this story is that the station is going off the air
 >  tomorrow, having been bought out and turned into a Spanish language
 >  station.

 ACK!!!  I'd heard something about KSCA possibly being bought, but I
 didn' tknow it was happening already!  (I live in Pasadena, but go to
 school in Chicago, so I didn't hear)...  first KNAC, and now KSCA.
 What's with unique L.A. stations becoming spanish?!

 Oh well, I am also replying to this because that particular show you
 mentioned was also the first time I'd ever heard BFF play -- and I'd
 gone to see BNL as well.  Weird.  But the odd thing about that show was
 that the sound system was pretty messed up for the first few of BFF's
 songs (jackson cannery and I don't remember what else)... and they
 sounded HORRIBLE!  My friends and I were sitting there laughing at them
 for being so bad... (we didn't know it was just the sound system at the
 time)... then, Darren just got up away from his set after like 10
 seconds of some song and said into the mike, "Hey sound people!!! What
 the hell is going on?!" or something like that... to which ben responded
 (this cracked me up): "That's darren jessee, our drummer.  He's real
 punk."  Then they fixed the sound system and played one of the better
 sets I've ever seen... picked up a shirt that night and an album the
 next day and was hooked forever.

 Oh well, that's my random personal story for the day.  Hope you had fun.

 -dan.

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:35:05 -0700
 From: news editor <news@allstarmag.com>
 Subject: BEN FOLDS FIVE COVERS OASIS

 Excerpted from: allstar Daily News for February 4, 1997

                     http://www.allstarmag.com

                     Edited by Carrie Borzillo


 BEN FOLDS FIVE COVERS OASIS
 'Champagne Supernova' Cover Due Feb. 10

     Fans of the spunky, piano-driven Ben Folds Five will soon
    have their wishes granted. For a while now in their live sets, Ben
    Folds Five has been covering both Oasis' mega hit "Champagne
    Supernova" and the Buggles' legendary "Video Killed the Radio Star"
    (the first video MTV ever played). And shortly, fans will have the
    chance to get recorded versions of those songs--albeit
    internationally.
       "Champagne Supernova" will be released as the B-side to "The Battle
    of Who Could Care Less," due Feb. 10 as the first European single from
    the band's upcoming album Whatever and Ever Amen. It will also be
    the B-side to the album's first single for Japan, which will be "Song
    for the Dumped." Both the European and Japanese singles will also
    contain a third song, "The Theme from Dr. Pyser." There are no plans
    at this point for "Champagne Supernova" to be released in the U.S., so
    check your import bins.
       As for "Video Killed the Radio Star," the song was supposed to be
    on an Elektra Records compilation called Wonderama, which never saw
    the light of day. But a spokesperson for Ben Folds Five says that
    there is talk of doing a live version of "Video" as a "B-side for
    something else somewhere down the road."
       Whatever and Ever Amen is the band's major label debut, and will
    be released in America on 550 Music/Epic on March 18. Ben Folds Five
    will also be supporting Counting Crows on a West Coast tour March 31
    through April 12, followed by their own headlining club tour.

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 Date: 4 Feb 1997 19:09:34 CST
 From: rosaliem@bbs.exoticomm.com
 Subject: Ben Folds in New Orleans

 Hi, if anyone is planning to come to the show in New Orleans, I have
 some info:

 Thursday, February 13, 1997
 Jimmy's music club, 8200 Willow St. (located Uptown, near Carrollton
 Avenue)
 Doors open at 8, showtime is for 10:30. They are on a bill with Five
 Stone and Moby. Ben Folds is second on the bill, so they should play
 about 12 or 12:30. Tickets are $8-12, the person I talked to was not
 sure of the exact price. He also didn't know anything about advance
 ticket sales, so I guess we'll just have to camp out early to beat the
 Moby fans.

 Bye!

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:51:01 -0500 (EST)
 From: Kristaffer@aol.com
 Subject: Anything!!

 I have absolutely nothing to trade, but I'll pay for anything slightly rare!
 Email me at Kristaffer@aol.com

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 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:31:12 -0500 (EST)
 From: THANEZRA4@aol.com
 Subject: touring with?

 i was recently listening to a local radio station who was talking with the
 counting crows. in their conversation the mentioned that they were touring
 with BF5, now they are coming close to my town and i wanted to know if they
 were touring with them (BF5) or not because if they aren't, then i probably
 won't go see them. so are they? thank you.
 -timme-

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:58:28 -0500 (EST)
 From: NBoski@aol.com
 Subject: Alice Childress & Ghost Tracks

 From what I have heard, the song "Alice Childress" has nothing at all to do
 with the writer.

 You want to hear about a ghost track.  I was fortunate to have heard many
 times the first album that BF5 did for Caroline - the one that got shelved.
  There was some hilarious, sick and twisted dialogue on that tape between
 Darren and Robert.  Did anyone ever get the chance to hear it?  If I posted
 it I could get in a lot of trouble because it's pretty vulgar, but so funny.

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:44:18 +0000
 From: Damian Child <dchild@lochard.com.au>
 Subject: Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #180

 >   Ok.. someone asked what Alice Childress was about. Well, Alice
 Childress is a

 This has been covered before. Alice Childress was someone in
 a nursing home that Ben's co-writer on that song knew... or
 something.

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:15:05 -0000
 From: Tom Whitaker <tom@tw.prestel.co.uk>
 Subject: NME

 John Lax wrote (M.A. #180):
 NME hasn't given anything a good review unless the band name is Oasis,
 Blur, Pulp or the Stone Roses. Its a good thing that Mojo, another British
 music mag, rated Ben Folds Five one of the top 20 albums of 1996.

 That's a bit harsh. The NME may be irritatingly contradictory (love it one
 week/hate it the next), but they do have more than one writer, and if one
 person raves about someone you don't like, you're likely to start HATING
 them - human nature, y'see. They don't love Stone Roses anymore - they
 slagged the brilliant second album, and take the piss all the time now.
 Also, I love them, 'cos they gave Underground 'Single of the Week'. That's
 why I bought it, so I've got to thank 'em.

 One more thing (to non-Brits)...
 In the UK, most people who like BF5 and Radiohead (who are mentioned quite
 a bit on this) also like:
 Kula Shaker
 Manic Street Preachers (esp. ' Everything Must Go' album - very Radiohead)
 Stone Roses (best band ever - ignore the NME)
 The Charlatans (who've come from good-but-second rate Roses imitation to
 groovy genius-types)
 The Bluetones

 You may have heard of all that lot (lucky you). If not, give 'em a go.

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:31:05 -0500 (EST)
 From: Rebecca.Cole@Mail.Trincoll.Edu, Rebecca Cole <rcole@Mail.Trincoll.Edu>
 Subject: BF5 in Glasgow

 Is anyone going to the Glasgow show at the Arches on March 2, besides me,
 a transplanted American? This is my first-ever BF5 show and I am more
 excited than even I can believe. If anyone is going, e-mail me, and maybe
 we can meet up.

 -Rebecca
 rcole@mail.trincoll.edu

 "please do not offer my god a peanut." -Apu

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 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 19:49:02 -0800
 From: gillet <gillet@pi.net>
 Subject: ben on tv

 yep,

 attention all dutch bf5 fans. set your vcr's 'cause the session bf5 did
 last time they were here will be broadcasted on tv (at least a couple of
 songs) thursday february the 13nd at 19:55 at NPS TV3. I don't know yet
 when the radio-version of the session (with more songs!) will be broad-
 casted.

 joris gillet

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 15:20:53 -0000
 From: Charles D Folds <4rachuck@concentric.net>
 Subject: Re: Pots & Pans

 Melanie Berlin asked-
 >Is anyone else familiar with Pots and
 > Pans, the band Ben was in back in the late 80's?
 Yes. It was very brief, I think they played about a half a dozen shows,
 it was the result of the breakup of Majosha. Ben played the drums, Evan
 Olson (Bus Stop) played bass and the guitar player was Snuzz (Bus Stop.
 Snuzzband). They didnt record anything.
 >On the album "Shut Up
 > and Listen to Majosha (does anyone know if this is their only album?),
 Yes, that was it.
 >there's a song called "Kalamazoo."  Could this be Kalamazoo, Mi?
 Yep, as Frank said, he lived near Traverse City for a while. He had some
 gig at Schuss Mountain Resort.
 see ya
 chuck folds

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:21:20 -0500 (EST)
 From: berlinme@student.lansing.cc.mi.us
 Subject: I'm confused...

 I recently came into possesion of the album of the band that Ben Folds
 was way back in the 80's.  I am  confused about the name of the band,
 though.  At first I was assuming that the name of the band was Pots and
 Pans, since there are orange stickers on the sleeve of the album that say
 "Shut Up and Listen to Majosha," the debut album by the band Pots and
 Pans.  But I  read on one of the BFF home pages that the name of the band
 was Majosha.  Could someone clear this up for me?  I'm really confused
 here.  If the name of the band was Majosha, what does Pots and Pans mean?

 Melanie Berlin
 berlinme@student.lansing.cc.mi.us

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:20:23 -0600 (CST)
 From: Bill Tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu>
 Subject: BFF: interesting idea


 Hey everyone--

 I came across this while reading my messages to Moby's electronic mailing
 list, aptly named Mobility:

 >Moby will be at 'Jimmy's' in New Orleans Feb 13. The ad reads:
 > "Electra Sony/550 Showcase featuring Moby, Ben Folds Five, midnight set
 >by Five Stones (Fantasy Recording artists)."

 Wouldn't that be a killer show?  Not just Ben and the gang, but our
 favorite vegan Moby as well?  Damn...maybe I should find a way down to New
 Orleans...

 Bill Tatalovich
 wt3@cec.wustl.edu

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:10:32 -0500 (EST)
 From: SoulFire1B@aol.com
 Subject: Ben Folds

 Since BF5 has signed with the new record company are they going to get more
 air time on the radio.   Will this endanger their ecstasy " UNDERGROUND"
 Soulfire1B

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 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 22:34 EST
 From: holmstd@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
 Subject: Re: "Pink On White Walls" CMJ MISTAKE!!!

 hi.

 in the last armchair, Tucker Linda Lorraine <tucker5@server.uwindsor.ca>
 wrote about a supposed BF5 track called "Pink On White Walls".

 I saw this song listed on the first installment of CMJ Magazine's "Comp
 Tape Of The Month: Getting Married Blues (or some such)" in the short cuts
 section of their mag.  The typist had gone mad on this entry and entered
 this title in two or three spots during the comp tape tracklist.

 I wrote to CMJ asking them to tell me where I could get this track from the
 5.  They took their sweet time replying via email, and eventually said that
 the track listed there actually was "Video" from BF5...and that "Pink On
 White Walls" was a track from another band in the tracklist, and that the
 typist, had (these are their words), "been dragged out of the layout room
 and shot."

 Hope this clears this up for you bside-freak-collector types like myself.
 Anything I can do to help out...

 -davhole  (Anyone with Soul Coughing rarities, please mail me!)

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 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:11:34 +1000 (EST)
 From: Michael Townsley <M.Townsley@hum.gu.edu.au>
 Subject: Other bands

 Andy Hewitt wrote:

    [quote shortened by moderator]
 > Can anybody recommend bands along the same lines or in a similar
 > style to Ben Folds Five as I love BFF so much that I will probably
 > like the others too ?

 Andy,

 Try listening to an Australian band called "The Whitlams". I saw them live
 about two weeks ago and they were awesome. They even did a song only
 performed at live shows. It is a kind of cover of Dexy and the Midnight
 Runner's "Eilenne". It was having a go at Pauline Hanson (an federal
 politician who also happens to be an uneducated racist bigot, IMHO). "Come
 on Pauline, what the f. do you mean?"

 I would definately try "The Whitlams"


 MT

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 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 21:33:00 +0900
 From: Azusa Motohashi <EZC00110@niftyserve.or.jp>
 Subject: Second Coming!!!

 To everyone,

 I mentioned about first single from "Whatever and Ever Amen".
 These were released yesterday!  Great, of course.
 But I have to tell you something about single.
 "Champagne Supernova" (original from Oasis) is an only side show
 truck from London."Theme from Dr.pyser",too.
 They didn't play a whole of "Champagne S."

 I heard the album jacket is different from U.S. one which will
 be sold. If you're Ben Folds Five mania, check it.

 To Takayuki O.
    Your liner notes are usually good. We feel your love for
   Ben Folds Five.And we thank you that you did a great job
   at "Sift". I never forget the magazine and your 2 times
   interviews for them.( when did you know the lady in
   "Jackson Cannary" jacket was Ben's mother?)


 Azusa Motohashi
 EZC00110@niftyserve.or.jp

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 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:39:05 +0000 (GMT)
 From: Paul <P.D.Macneill@comp.brad.ac.uk>
 Subject: NME

 A lot of people on this list have been giving the NME a slagging for
 their (extremely brief) comments about the new BFF album, but has
 anyone noticed the line-up on their new 'Singles of the Week 1996'
 compilation album. The tune 'Underground' by a certain well known
 piano-playing three-piece is featured. And if everyone in Britain
 hates them (as the comments before seem to suggest), why have the BRAT
 awards (NMEs 'alternative' awards ceremony, to promote new talent) had
 such an effect on the BRIT awards (real British music industry
 awards), pulling it into real life?
 Wait for the full review, then slag them off if you want.

 Paul MacNeill

 To survive in a horror movie:
 1. As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals to Hell.

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 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 22:42:24 +0100 (MET)
 From: Daniel Rodrigues Parreira <parreira@aquawolf.xs4all.nl>
 Subject: RE: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #180

 On thursday the 13th Ben Folds Five will be playing on Dutch national TV in a
 show called "2 meter sessies". . I don't know which songs will be performed.
 They recorded the sessions the day after they played in Amsterdam last year.

 -- Daniel

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 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:24:37 -0500 (EST)
 From: Stuart Kazanow <stuart@tiger.towson.edu>
 Subject: Ben on a Bus Stop recording???

   Is is just me, or do the lead vocals on Bus Stop's "Facin' Out" sound
 exactly like Ben?
   Just curious, given he has no album credit, and Chuck is given no credit
 for vocals.

          -Stuart

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 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:03:25 -0500 (EST)
 From: Phishrman1@aol.com
 Subject: when?

 When Will BF5 come to New York City?????????

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 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 21:31:32 +0000
 From: Alex Torrance <mabp65@dial.pipex.com>
 Subject: snobbery in music. hmmmmmmm.....

 hello.

 a long time ago Carrie said:

 >>idiot pop fansthis sounds a bit elitist to me but then i can't really
 talk. some of my best mates are idiot pop fans into crap like the
 bluetones, shed seven and the spice girls! (well not the spice girls.) and
 i go one further by liking obscure 'indie' stuff like jonathan fire*eater,
 ben folds five and jon spencer blues explosion as well as bis, am i the
 only bis fan here? i think so. i don't like it cos its not very popular
 but because its good.  i have one friend who constantly has a go cos he
 thinks my musical taste is dictated by the nme, but i don't care cos he
 likes reef!!!! ha ha ha. anyway i'm going to the bff show @ the astoria in
 march and i'm bring one idiot pop fan with me so there!!!!!

 also linda tucker said something about pink on white walls. this is by
 Paul weller and not bff tho' it has a piano in it so i guess it sounds
 like them a bit. however it should be easily distinguisable by paul's
 gravely voice and the guitar solo. (bff=no guitar!).

 alex.

 i dont know any quotes. oh yeah, i do, wait a bit....

 "sugar, sugar, kandy pop!" bis.

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 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 21:44:54 +0000
 From: Alex Torrance <mabp65@dial.pipex.com>
 Subject: Five Fold iss. #2

 hi again.

 Five Fold issue #2 is out now!! it costs 50p for those of you in the uk
 or 2-3 IRC's for those who don't have the privilage to live in the same
 country as me! ha only joshing. it has a coupla live reviews, a review on
 some of the unnofficial bff web sites and 4 reasons why Ben Folds Five
 are better than Oasis, like you don't know already! send all yr money +
 SAE to:
 	Alex,
 	93 Shortheath Road,
 	Farnham,
 	Surrey,
 	GU9 8RZ
 	Uk

 Alex.

 i still can't think of a good quote. :P

 p.s. an irc is an international relay coupon which you can buy from your
 post office for US$1:15 i think. its kinda like international stamp
 buying money. nearly as great as sliced bread or conveyor belts.

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 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 17:57:55 -0500
 From: Mandel Ilagan <ilagan@husc.harvard.edu>
 Subject: RE: Q (March 1997 issue) + other news...

 Some random thoughts as I eagerly await the next album:

 Something to add to the post about the March 1997 "Q" issue in the last
 digest...The issue also contains a very positive review about "Whatever and
 Ever Amen," four out of five stars to be exact.  The only criticisms the
 reviewer had were about the vocal mixing and the studio chatter.

 There's also an article about "The Battle of Who Could Care Less" European
 single and the "Song For the Dumped" Japanese single on www.allstarmag.com.
  In addition to mentioning that "Champagne Supernova" would be a B-side on
 both singles, the article also said that the singles would have another
 track called "The Theme from Dr. Pyser."  Is this that live cover of the
 British TV theme that was mentioned a while back or is this a non-album
 track from the "Whatever and Ever Amen" recording sessions?

 Mandel Ilagan
 ilagan@fas.harvard.edu
 http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~ilagan
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