THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #217 - April 5, 1997
THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #217
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Topics for Today:
bff in Boston
Re: Chapel Hill show, excitement/depression
Growing up is hard to do
Recognition.
Re: Ben Folds on the Radio
The Magical Armchair (Subscribe)
Ben Folds interview!
Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #212
Kissing music
BFF in Miami?
The free CD offer
mis
Re: Kareoke Night in Winston-Salem
BFF free stuff?
Re: Singing over lyrics / Driving to Atlanta
What we should all REALLY be concerned about.
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 17:14:17 EST
From: jrose@MIT.EDU
Subject: bff in Boston
after being passed over on this US tour (which SUCKS), I saw in the
Boston Phoenix today that Ben and the boys will be here at the Paradise
on May 27 (a Tuesday), presumably starting the tour after their return
from Japan. tickets go on sale tomorrow (4/4) and are $10.
kinda weird that they skipped this college town while classes are
in session, but will be here right after finals when the city shuts
down...oh well. at least they're coming.
Joel
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:36:48 -0500
From: Ed Crabtree <ecrab@ga.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Chapel Hill show, excitement/depression
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 97 10:32:06 EST
> From: Jason Kilts <Jason.Kilts@css.unc.edu>
> Subject: Chapel Hill show, excitement/depression
>
> Well, it's been two and a half days since the BFF show at the Cat's Cradle
> here in Chapel Hill. First of all, let me tell every last one of you out
> there who have not seen BFF in a club setting, listen to everybody on this
> list that tells you that it will be the greatest show ever. They were right.
This was my third BF5 club show, and it was great, but my second will
probably always be my favorite--with Fleming McWilliams Painter dancing
right in front of me. ;-)
> It was great to see a fellow Armchairer there. Hey, Ed!! (I'm sure there
> were several others, but I didn't go around taking a poll.)
I just overheard Jason asking someone else if they were on the list and had
to speak up. Nice to meet ya, Jason.
Ed Rock Crabtree
ecrab@ga.unc.edu
http://ias.ga.unc.edu/~ecrab
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:27:40 -0500
From: "Matthew W. Morse" <Matthew.Morse@mail.trincoll.edu>
Subject: Growing up is hard to do
There seems to be a lot of dissent about the new album and how it measures
up. I listened to the new album extensively and then listened to the old
one. My first reaction is that the songs on the second album and fuller and
richer in quality and the members of the band have grown tighter and more
comfortable with each other. What I think we've seen is that BFF has begun
to mature as a band, and their personal growth both as people and musicians
is documented in the gap between album 1 and 2. Looking forward to seeing
them at Irving plaza.
-Matthew Morse
"The people who think Tiny Tim is strange are the same ones who think it
odd that I drive without pants."
Matthew Morse
Trinity College
Matthew.Morse@mail.trincoll.edu
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 16:39:01 -0600
From: "Scott A. Schneider" <echo@msn.globaldialog.com>
Subject: Recognition.
Okay, guys and gals... time to begin that spat that came about the first
time they went on tour...
Are we (as list members) doing anything at live shows to recognize
eachother? You know, like wearing "Hello, my name is Frank" nametags, or
shouting "Satan is my Maynard!" or any of those other things that Frank
obviously hates? :) I think it'd be fun to at least do something to
identify ourselves to other list members...
C'mon, let's brainstorm! Those tour dates are commin' up fast...
Scott
http://www.globaldialog.com/~echo/bff/
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:40:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Jessica237@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ben Folds on the Radio
I listen to this modern rock local radio station. Every week they do this
thing where they pick a CD and every day at 5:30, they'll play another song
from the CD--it's called Prime Cuts. Well, this week it's our buddies Ben
Folds Five. Everyday they play a new song and give more info. about the band.
Here's in order what they've played so far:
Fair
Kate
Selfless, Cold, and Composed
and. . .(the next one should be on in a minute). . .Steven's Last Night in
Town
This station is so awesome. They've been playing Ben Folds since Underground
first came out. I'm so psyched up!! Woo-hoo! Go Ben Folds!!
Jess
[What station and where? -fjm]
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 18:07:41 -0500
From: GreenBayFan <GreenBayFan@prodigy.net>
Subject: The Magical Armchair (Subscribe)
...I must confess, being a die hard Phish fanatic
for a good 5 years I have not given any other bands a chance ti impress
me. Thank god a good friend of mine forced me to listen to Bf5 about a
month ago and I love it. I don't mean to grovel, but if you know anyone
who could help me find some live Bf5 it would be much appreciated. I
have tons of stuff to trade. I was really impressed with the intensity
they played with at Ziggy's. My friend and I drove from Minneapolis to
Winston-Salem for spring break/his birthday. I wrote down the
setlist,(phorce of habit)and I havent seen it posted so here it is.
My e-mail is GreenBayFan@prodigy.net Thanks!!
Missing The War
-New Song-
Philosophy
Selfless,Cold,Composed
Where's Summer B.
Alice Childress
Kate
Steven's Last Night in Town
Brick
Video
Jackson Cannery
-??????-
One Angry Dwarf..
Fair
The Battle Of...
Jam>Uncle Walter
Song for the Dumped(w/extended jamming)
-Stairway To Heaven Tease> Underground#
E)Best Imitation of Myself
Julianne
# During the beginning lyrics, Darren says"Hand Me My Cockring"
and Robert says"We beat up the Cardigans in a fist fight."
Chris Scanlon
University of Minnesota
GreenBayFan@prodigy.net
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:09:13 -0500 (EST)
From: ryan wesley lakenan <lakenrw3@wfu.edu>
Subject: Ben Folds interview!
hey there. My name is ryan lakenan, I'm a wake forest student, who is
posing as an mtv intern for this semester. In trying to abuse the
privlages there in, I nabbed an interview with ben and wrote up a summary
of it and the band that should be going up on their homepage soon. It's
in the music part called Biorythms of MTV's homepage. Hope the review
was somewhere close to what the band is actually like. I basically
praised them, so most everybody on this list should like it. Stuff I
didn't mention in the review: Ben is completly down to earth! Given,
he's no world renowned rockstar, but he could have been a little pissed
at having to answer some questions from a college punk looking for a few
good quotes, but he wasn't. He's calm and nice, and I gotta say that I
have even more reasons why I'd love to see the band explode: they deserve
it. Also, the wintson-salem show was a mind f***. They are amazing and
if you get a chance, go! I had long-liked their album, but seeing them
in concert is a far greater experience. Check out the interview, hope ya
like it,
ryan lakenan
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:20:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Bronwyn Anna Deaver <bdeaver@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR, Issue #212
Hello everyone!!!!
This is my first post on this list and I want you all to know
that I think it is great that some people out there have good tastes in
music.
I would like to talk about Brick. I think it is about abortion
also. Take it from someone who knows the experience first hand. Ben
portrays my boyfriend (also named Ben) and my experience to the dot.
Abortion is not a bad thing in my opinion. I don't want them to happen,
but sometimes it the choice that has to be made. I don't expect any of
you to understand. But her being balled up on the couch and him pacing
around in the parking lot is just too perfect of a typical abortion
process. Most people think that everything will be fine after an
abortion and in many cases it is, but for some including this girl you
realize that you made the right choice, but you miss the baby. Thus the
brick. Ben realizes that the girl isn't just going to magically be okay
now that the pregnancy is over. SHe is sad and he wants her to be over
it, but realizes she can't be. Therefore she is bringing him down too
and is sad about the child also although they both think the decision
they make was correct. They hid it from her parents and it was early in
the morning. Just more evidence. Thanks for listening and try to
support and love anyone you know that gets pregnant no matter what they
decide to do with the pregnancy. Sometimes abortion is just the best
although hardest decision to make. Not only for the parents but the baby
too. Mommy and Daddy love you BA!!!!
Bronwyn
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:37:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Michele <mmenuck@umich.edu>
Subject: Kissing music
Perhaps this is a cheesy thing to post, but it's something I feel strongly
about...
It used to be that Dave Matthews was the best music to, you know, fool
around to...
Now, with songs like "Brick", Ben is taking Dave's place- for me, at
least.
It was said that DMB had a tendency to "turn people on." I stress _had_.
BFF all the way.
Michele
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Michele R. Menuck
University of Michigan
mmenuck@umich.edu
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mmenuck
"Life is hard, but it's even harder when you're stupid." -?
"Welcome to the world. Thank you, drive through." -Beavis
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:33:15 -0500
From: Shaleen R Hamilton <revir@juno.com>
Subject: BFF in Miami?
Could someone PLEASE tell me if the BFF have any plans to play in Miami
or anywhere in south florida?? I know they came last year for the first
album...but (of course w/ my luck) they were playing an hour and a half
away on the night before I biggest final...geez. I'm dying to know if
they're playing down here...someone help me please!
Shaleen
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:51:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Michele <mmenuck@umich.edu>
Subject: The free CD offer
I must be really slow...
Last week, I paid a visit to one of the BFF web sites (I forget which
one), to find a coupon entitling me to a free BFF import CD.
"Wow," I thought, "That's pretty f***ing cool."
So, I proceeded to call every independent record in the immediate area, to
find that they were all gone. :(
Then, I decided to call a store that was a bit out of the way, in "tears."
They had them both shipped from another store for me. And I was happy :)
Hava Nagila.
Michele
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:31:56 -0500
From: lpd105@psu.edu
Subject: mis
is 'kate' a song about his wife? also i am going to see bff in philly on
the 30th. i can hardly wait. i am going to have time of my life. if
anyone else is attending that show i will catch you there. well catch all
of you on the flip side.
luke
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:35:52 -0500
From: Mike Piccuirro <mikeman@pegasus.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: Kareoke Night in Winston-Salem
> Why do people feel
> the necessity to sing ever single lyric out loud?
> ... at the concert venue I'm there because I want to hear the
> artist perform, not the drunk guy behind me
> or the cute couple next to me bleat out the lyrics at the top of their
> lungs.
Well, PJ you're not going to be able to do anything about the crowed so
there is only one thing you can do....get just as drunk as the guy
behind you...more so if possible. Then the crowed singing (and you own)
doesn't sound that bad:)
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 19:43:54 -0500
From: Shaleen R Hamilton <revir@juno.com>
Subject: BFF free stuff?
This is (technically) my second time writing to this, but I do'nt count
the first one (when I asked if anyone knew of a concert in S. FL) But I
just want to say that I love Whatever...I really can't say if it's better
or worse than the first, because they're both so great...and so
different, with all the ballads it's a completely different album. I'm
glad for that too, cause I like to see that they have such a huge range
in songwriting.
Too repeat Joel (who posted earlier) where are you people getting all
this other Ben Folds Five stuff?! I live in Miami, and I have only ever
found 1 import...actually I've only ever met one other person who had
heard BFF (well who I didn't introduce to the band).
Dying to see the guys in concert--
Shaleen
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 20:01:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Mint-Chocolate <fender@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Re: Singing over lyrics / Driving to Atlanta
PJ,
Yes this annoys me very much too. Luckily, when they came to
Gainesville last year they were unknown to mostly everyone except those of
us listening to WRRX97X (small station run by music lovers, always have to
plug them!). The small venue was comfortably packed, I think only a
handful of us actually had the CD and knew the words. Even then we had
the respect to not sing them... When I went to see weezer there were
these guys at least 10ft behind us totally yelling every word. I actually
couldn't hear Rivers' voice at all. I hope that never happens in future
BF5 concerts, but I think most of us do actually want to hear Ben, Darren,
and Robert sing rather than ouselves! I mean, it IS natural to want to
sing along, but have a little self control! Oh, yeah...the obnoxious guys
at the weezer show were drunk. Another reason why I'll never drink.
Unfortunately I'm not sure if they will be playing FL dates or not
this time around...so if there's anyone in central FL wanting to drive to
Atlanta with me, please contact me. Thanks!
Steve
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 20:32:06 -0500 (EST)
From: AGNEND86@BUFFALOSTATE.EDU
Subject: What we should all REALLY be concerned about.
Dear Benfolders,
I'm really kinda sick of all the nitpicking over the new songs, "new sound"
and whatnot. The only thing that we should really be concerned about, is the
fact that we won't have a NEW BFF album for another two years. The
anticipation for the new record was so great...and now that anticipation
and excitement is all but a memory.
Is it just me, or does, "Ciggarette" sound like it belongs in the middle
of some sort of concept album? I mean, what's this Fred Jones guy all
about anyways? I wish I knew more, because it's my fave song on the album.
Whoops, there I go, nitpicking - not even taking my own advice.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone on here heard of The Marshes (fairly new
band with Colin Seers from Dag Nasty on drums)? I think I read someplace
that Ben likes them. If you see their CDs, pick 'em, if pop-punk is
you're thing that is. Ta ta darlin's.
NA
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