THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #263 - April 26, 1997
Magical Armchair Digest Saturday, April 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 263
THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Mailing List
Topics in this issue:
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #254
Armchair Schmarmchair.....
Now THIS was a Cool Way to Cover a Song or Three
review in People
Detroit show tonight!
Cleveland & Philly
Cleveland Tapers!!!!
Re: okay, okay
BF5 gives me the willies.
Ben Folds Five Online Action
Elvis Costello cover, Flaming Lips cover
Chicago.
Detroit radio appearance
chicago show
HORDE
unsubscribe
SORRY!
Re: MTV edits
[none]
[none]
[none]
[none]
[none]
Chicago Review
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 97 08:42:39 EDT
From: Jeff <RJLOWEZ1@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #254
please do not send me anymore magical armchairs. thanks
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:38:05 +0100
From: Mark Piper (PWA) <pipermf@ugs1.ph.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Armchair Schmarmchair.....
My few cents worth on everything that's been discussed recently, now I've had a good chance to trawl through the 40 or so digests I had waiting for me. Going "Mainstream". It's no good posting to the Armchair saying that BFF should not go mainstream. It a
in't in their hands! If the population like it, then you can't stop them, just because you happened to know about BFF while they were still playing toilet cubicles at KFC or something. I think we should be glad that a lot of people are agreeing with us th
at Ben Folds Five make so f**king fantastic music.
Discussion of "Brick". Put it this way, I'd rather have an intelligent discussion by intelligent people on this than have to scour through the posts like "Hi, just thought I'd try out Majordomo" or something.
The chain letter thing. Hmm, what a mess. Okay, so I've already posted my thoughts, in a reasonably peaceful way, and thought of it as a one off. McCall has apologised, I believe her when she says it was an innocent mistake, leave it there. I was a bit a
larmed to see some of the reactions that she received from people I believed to have been polite and civilised. While you may not have liked the chain letter being posted, it is not a big problem, and you should have simply reminded her that this sort of
thing is not acceptable. HOWEVER, and please don't let's make this another huge debate, McCall, it really wasn't your place to post quotes from those mails that you received either. Posting private email correspondence without consent from the sender is a
breach of Netiquette. Anyway, let's all kiss and make up.
Please don't spoil this list. For a long time it's been great, it's had humour, intelligence, and best of all, nice people. Just because we get the thing sent automatically now, should there be a difference? The most common refrain I hear on the list is
"Hi, I just joined, I used to be on the <band> mailing list, but it was full of people bitching at each other, but this list is far better". Please keep it that way... thanks.
Well, I'm off to the bar. Peace.
Mark
Looks, Brains and Everything - www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5430/bff.html
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:27:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: THE YANKEE <mcdonpj3@wfu.edu>
Subject: Now THIS was a Cool Way to Cover a Song or Three
On , 25 Apr 1997, Magical Armchair Digest wrote:
> Anyway, there's been some talk on the Magical Armchair lately about good
> bands for BF5 to cover. I definitely think they could cover some of the
> less vocal Moxy songs. Not that they're not vocally talented, but most
> Moxy songs have a lot of 4-part harmony and BF5 is only three people.
> Still, there's some songs with piano and not as much of vocalizing.
> Spidey the Fun-Licker
Okay, Spidey,
I'm going to jump in here. I am a big Fruhead who can not attend
shows because they don't get down to the Southeast US. I saw them in
Boston 2 summers hence and they were great. They finished their show
with (check this out armchair cover song buffs) a medley of
Walk on the Wildside(lou Reed)
Dancing Queen (abba)
Angel of Harlem (U2).
By the end they were singing all three simultaneously. The words
they picked in the the three different songs struck a chord change
together-I was very impressed.
But BFF could sing most Moxy stuff as long as Robert played bass,
and you didn't go looking for Murray's (Moxy's Bass) low notes. I think
BFF can sing higher than Moxy in general, but Moxy is more traditional in
their vocal stylings. Still, I'd like to see Ben play "Stuck in the
90's" or maybe "Fell in Love"-which I think would bear an eerie
resemblance to Missing the War when played by bFF.
I will not return to a stream of mostly BFF Content in my next post.
Patrick J. McDonough
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:36:21 -0400
From: cynthia@people.timeinc.com (Cynthia Wang)
Subject: review in People
Hi all,
You can probably guess where I get this info, based on my e-mail address,
but BFF has hit the mainstream in a way - a very glowing review in the new
People magazine! (Issue date 5/5/97).
As for a great live show, The Finn Brothers opening for BFF would make me a
happy camper.
Take care, y'all,
Cynthia
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:58:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michele <mmenuck@umich.edu>
Subject: Detroit show tonight!
Looking forward to seeing some of you at St. Andrews tonight (4/25)...
Perhaps I'll be daring enough to scope out Armchair people by shouting out
"Armchair, Maynard, whatever!", since we have no set method of identifying
one another.
Laters.
Michele
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Michele R. Menuck
University of Michigan
mmenuck@umich.edu
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mmenuck
"Life is hard, but it's even harder when you're stupid." -?
"Welcome to the world. Thank you, drive through." -Beavis
"If my mind's somewhere else, you'll be unable to tell. I do the best
imitation of myself." -BF5
"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams." -WW
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:07:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: kw070582@sjuphil.sju.edu (Kristin Whiteman)
Subject: Cleveland & Philly
To the Cleveland people --
When is BF5 coming and where will they be playing? I am hoping to make a
trip out there soon.
Donna as far as Philly is concerned, looking forward to Wednesday! We'll
keep an eye out for green ribbons.
Kris
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:17:23 -0400
From: Shaun Gilmour <sgilmour@pgh.net>
Subject: Cleveland Tapers!!!!
Any of the people that e-mailed me that said they were thinking about
taping at the Cleveland show please e-mail me A.S.A.P!!!!! I think there
were a few of you from Rochester that had talked to me.
The person who was going to lend me their Schoepps fell through at the
last minute. I have a stereo mic, but need to hook up with someone who
can bring better mics for the tree.
I need something that will easily run into my D-8 DAT deck. Adaptors are
fine.
- --
Later,
Shaun
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Shaun Gilmour Visit my tapelist on the web!!!
sgilmour@pgh.net http://www3.pgh.net/~sgilmour/tapes.html
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:31:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "JOHN B. WELLS" <jbwell01@morehead-st.edu>
Subject: Re: okay, okay
Awww....quit your bitchin'....
The music's still the same...
JBW
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:38:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Heavens Gate....." <apixies@unm.edu>
Subject: BF5 gives me the willies.
Greetings and Salutations,
I just wanted to say that I would love to see BF5 do a cover of...
JUNGLE BOOGIE-by a band I can't remember now.
opening band? the PIXIES (well, if they were still together)
One more thing. This may be late, but I was at the BF5 concert in Tempe
Arizona on April 12. Drove all the way from freaking New Mexico (land of
much dirt and cacti) to see them. But I got to talk to Ben, Robert and
Darren. They are all the nicest, most down to earth guys. And it was
defiently the best concert I had ever been too. I'm desperatly awaiting
Lollapalooza OR the Horde Festival (both rumored to have BF5). Ok, my
cheesey letter/note is done.
Wishing you all healthy colon,
Jenny
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:04:26 -0700
From: Epic_Records@epiccenter.music.sony.com
Subject: Ben Folds Five Online Action
Ben Folds Five live internet concert broadcast TONIGHT April
24th at 8 PM EST from the sold out Chicago Metro show. Go to
www.jamtv.com.
America Online chat Tuesday April 29th at 9PM EST in Rolling
Stone Online. AOL keyword: Rolling Stone
BFF is supporting the TJ Martell Foundation for cancer
and leukemia research by donating the melodica keyboard used
on "Whatever.." and live on the road to the Celebrity
Auctionline. You can bid on it, as well as many other music
related items by going to www.streammedia.com/auctionline.
If you would like to put a link to the auction on your own
site go to the Participate area of the Auction site and grab a banner. Thanks for supporting Ben Folds Five and the TJ Martell Foundation.
If you would like to be removed from this list send an e
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with the following command in the body of your message:
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:06:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve Clay <fender@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Elvis Costello cover, Flaming Lips cover
OKAY, THAT'S IT! I HAVE TO SPEAK UP!
Please everyone, be careful when you post to this wonderful list.
At least don't quote an entire digest; It's getting out of hand! Another
thing to keep under control is the amount of wasteful messages sent just
to flame/disapprove of the foolish things peopl do on the list. We ALL
get the list, so obviously there's no need for EVERYONE to send their
angry messages. 1 stupid message is unfortunate, but 1 stupid message +
20 angry messages in response to that message is even worse! At least
have something relevant to the list to post...
I forgot to post about an interview I read about 3 weeks back that
mentioned that the boys did a recording of "She Don't Use Jelly" for a
lounge compilation CD coming soon. So yes, we'll all have the chance to
have a nice recording of it. I've only heard the song once a while back,
and I don't think I dug it, but I'm sure Ben's arrangement improves it
quite a bit.
A person mentioned that they did the Elvis Costello outtake "Wave
A White Flag". I think that only appears on his reissue of "My Aim is
True", so it's kinda neat to think that Ben might be listening one of my
favorite albums. Moreso neat that I'll possibly have a chance to hear
that nifty little toon when the come to FL. Because, of course, they ARE
coming to FL. That is an order.
Remember: 1 stupid message bad
1 stupid message + 20 "empty" complaints worse
Cheer up everyone! Can't you feel the love!?
Steve Clay - "Must we always quote someone else?"
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 97 11:22:57 -0500
From: "Scott A. Schneider" <echo@msn.globaldialog.com>
Subject: Chicago.
Chicago was fun. I feel no need to post a setlist, since two others
already have done so. I didn't see many Armchair people there (a total
of only two, actually-- so a big "hello" to Susie and Chad).
They played a rather amusing impromptu nothing-like-the-original "Sexy
Motherfucker", which was definately one of the highlights of the show (I
like that originality "every show is different" kind of deal).
Am I the only person who knew Emmaline? The crowd seemed confused
durring that one.
Philosophy was played too fast.
Robert did a fine job with the stand-up bass on Brick. His "wait, I
missed my part there, let me play it again" schtick on Kate was amusing.
Darren's guitar rocked. So did his drumstick-twirling on The Ultimate
Sacrifice (haha, funny song).
Okay, I can't really say much more that hasn't already been said about
the band-- you all know that they are great; that's why you're on the
list.
scott
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:29:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Maynard <maynard@mail.oeonline.com>
Subject: Detroit radio appearance
Update on my post yesterday regarding the appearance on WHYT-FM in
Detroit. They are taping today and the segment will air on Monday morning
between 5:30 and 10:00 am. WHYT-FM is at 96.3 MHz.
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:41:37 -0600
From: "Justin Baker" <jbaker@olivet.edu>
Subject: chicago show
just wanted to express my happiness and satisfaction with the chicago
show. it was wonderful. hello to the girl i met and shook hands
with, i forgot your name.
justin
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:45:14 -0500
From: nancy <ndoodle@ou.edu>
Subject: HORDE
hey there, someone mentioned that bf5 was rumoured to be touring with
HORDE. is it true? does anyone happen to have info on HORDE at all?
any help appreciated!!
nancy ;)
ps, I hope this post doesn't get ignored, as I've noticed a lot of
repeat posts since people aren't answering VALID questions, cos they're
so damn hot about that chain mail!
psi, moral of the story is...it could've been ignored, thus NOT creating
so much hate mail that further cluttered our mailboxes if only it hadn't
been sent. ah, and pertinant posts are being ignored...
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 01:33:04 +0800
From: Giles Wilson <seagull@snakebite.com>
Subject: unsubscribe
please unsubscribe me from the BFF mailing list.
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:47:08 EDT
From: sandishortcake@juno.com (Sandi Shorter)
Subject: SORRY!
I'm so sorry about my message in #258...I don't know why my signature
appeared above the message and then below it as well....AND I didn't mean
to have forwarded the beginning of the Armchair I was quoting (subjects
and all) ...Sorry. I have 2 Armchairs left to read and I'm nervous that
there's going to be a BIG gripe about it....
Sandi
"get born. keep warm. short pants. romance." -Dylan
http://kent.edu/~sshorter
Where we discuss the Wallflowers, BF5, strange dreams, & things that piss
us off!
Join us! sandishortcake@juno.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:06:57 -0500
From: "Louie Nash" <louie@tamu.edu>
Subject: Re: MTV edits
"What makes them think they have the right to censor?"
Basically the fact that they are a private corporation and can say whatever
they want and do whatever they want with the videos since they purchased
the rights to them. The thing that really chaps my hide is that there isn't
any real competition. ANYWHERE! And on top of that MTV doesn't even show
music videos anymore! Something like 3 hours a day! (And that includes the
M2 previews!)Exactly what is the likelyhood of us getting M2 anytime in the
near future? I put the odds at somewhere between slim and snowball in hell.
The one positive thing I can say is that the last couple of times I HAVE
turned it on (which is admittedly not much) they have played Ben and the
boys first thing on M2! Man, oh man do I love BoWCCL!
Does anyone know what the next single is supposed to be? I have no clue,
but I really hope that it's One Angry Dwarf.... that song just summarizes
my life.
(And I'm sorry if I offended anyone with the litebulb thing... I just can't
stand overzealous flamers.)
Bo Nash
louie@tamu.edu
"The one serious conviction that a man should have is that
nothing is to be taken too seriously."
Samuel Butler: 1612-1680, British poet
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:16:42 -0500
From: louie@tamu.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:23:28 -0500
From: louie@tamu.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:22:32 -0500
From: louie@tamu.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:18:15 -0500
From: louie@tamu.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:17:04 -0500
From: louie@tamu.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:21:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: AngrYngFan@aol.com
Subject: Chicago Review
God, I feel miserable this morning, but it's a good kind of miserable. My
throat is soar from all that screaming and my body is just one big pile of
mush, plus I have that sad feeling of the circus leaving town. But the fact
that my misery is a result of one of the best shows I've ever been to makes
up for it.
You already know the basics of the show so I'm just going to mention the
things that impressed me. For one, that constant buzz of energy, not just
from the band, but from the crowd. I saw them 2 years or so ago at the
Lounge Ax, and I remember that aspect pretty well, but it still amazes me
that 3 guys could create such a great vibe! And that audience was the best
Metro all-ages audience I've ever seen! Everyone was so into it!
The highlights of the show....Ben created a song on the spot with the
inspiring lyrics from an audience member's note, "You're one Sexy
Mother-Fucker". The best part was the line, "S-E-X-Y-M-O-T-E-R-F-U-C-K-E-R".
Fantastic! ...........You all told me about them playing "She Don't Use
Jelly", but you didn't tell me it was to a Bossa Nova beat! That was sooo
cooool! ...........I guess now is as good a time as any to tell you that
they've already sold out; they brought a guitar on stage. I guess I'm being
a little harsh since it was just a little electronic toy about the size of
Robert's hand, but next time it's going to be a toy with strings, and the
time after that a little bigger one, and then who knows?..........I dont't
know about sexy, but Ben was so cute when he got up to play that keyboard
horn thingy. He's got the greatest expressions!........I bet you didn't know
that the original title to "Fair" was "Ahh, Liz Phair". He let us in on that
little secret last night!........Did anyone else think of Greatful Dead
"space" when they paused and went into a little jam session after the line,
"slow it down some and have some space" during "Song for the Dumped"? Thank
God it was only 40 seconds instead of 40 minutes! (sorry just having a
non-halucinogenic backflash to one of the worst concert experiences of my
life).
Another note, a friend of mine from work and her boyfriend joined my
husband and I. She had only heard my CDs once last week, and decided to go
on Tuesday. Her boyfriend had never heard of them and isn't into music much.
Anyway, the reason I'm telling you this is because I think I've got a
convert. My friend loved it so much she was going to buy a T-shirt (they
sold out of the one she wanted) and is going out immediately to buy the CDs.
Her boyfriend also enjoyed it, but said he probably won't listen to them in
his spare time.
Unfortunately the Milwakee show is on a Tuesday or I'm sure I'd be road
trippin' it up there. If any of the band members read this, please, please,
please come back to Chicago!!!!!! soon!!!!!
Love to the band and that great audience last night. Ya'll are the coolest!
Margaret
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