THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #806 - February 6, 1998
Magical Armchair Digest Friday, February 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 806
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
Uncle Walter
butt butt
come see me.
FREE SINGLES IF YOU GUYS HELP ME OUT
more tour dates???
Re: Jeff Buckley
class system
RE: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #805
Re: Twin Falls
Re: Rides to Seattle
Re: Twin Falls question
Loveline Appearance
Twin Falls/BTS & Loveline
ATTN: LAURA!!!
Thoughts on NBP (IMO of course) / Gainesville's lost 97X?
I must have missed something
seattle ticket grovel
The real Joe Jackson comparison
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:59:39 EST
From: Suzy122@aol.com
Subject: Uncle Walter
OK. I had heard somewhere that Uncle Walter was somewhat based on Walter
Cronkow, Cronkite, whatever his name is. It makes a tiny bit of sense
considering his nickname is in fact Uncle Walter. He also has been in the
newscaster business for like 50 years, similar to when Ben says, "The voice of
50 years experience". Probably just some stupid rumor but if anyone can give
me any validity to this comparison or other insights to what the song is about
that would be just peachy.
Suzanne
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:18:23 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: butt butt
>are saying is give peace a chance! etc., etc. Anyway, I have a tattoo
>of the BF5 piano logo on my right ass cheek, so I'd have all of y'all
>beat.
>Jenni
Boy are you gonna be sorry when you find out that ben is really a gay
crackhead nazi transexual!
jess :)
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:30:32 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: come see me.
Hey y'all, here to announce my web page (which i'm very proud of, because i
never knew HTML untiil last week).
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/6814
it doesn't have much for the non-trader but it's got some good links (sorry
the only BFF one is for Frank's page, which i think is all u need!) and for
the tape trader, i think i've got a pretty cmprehensive list.
Plus: Anyone who has ANY ska or ska-like bootlegs, please e-mail me. I am
in dire need of them. I would love to trade BFF tapes for them, i've got a
lot to pick from!!!!!
jess
"I bet you never knew but now you know-
I'm the undisputed king of this disco"
--DJ Kool
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:37:32 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christina M. Scarmeas" <15SCARMEAS@cua.edu>
Subject: FREE SINGLES IF YOU GUYS HELP ME OUT
Ok, I need DC tickets, and I was wondering if anyone has two extra.. the
show sold out, and I didn't get a chance to get any. I WILL GIVE MY
SINGLES OF KATE AND WHERE'S SUMMER B TO WHOEVER HELPS ME OUT. Hell, I'll
buy you beer too....Guys, you gotta help me. Please email me at my own
address if you can help. UGH, I am sooo pissed at Protix.. I called two
days ago and they said they had plenty left!!!!
Thanks guys.....Heather from GW if you read this, do you have any
suggestions?
Tina
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Christina Scarmeas
Catholic University
Washington, DC
"I'm crazy, but I get the job done" Ben Folds Five
"Screw you guys, I'm going home...talking poo is where I draw the line" Cartman
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:43:37 EST
From: luckyday6@juno.com (Jason A Masi)
Subject: more tour dates???
I have heard many rumors that ben folds five will announce more tour
dates in the weeks to come already added to their current tour. well i
will keep you posted.
- -Fiver
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:48:49 EST
From: Spngledsky@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley
Well, as a member of both the JBEL and the Armchair, I feel compelled to
speak. The JBEL isn't up in arms over this. At least that's my impression.
There are many BFF fans over in JBEL land and have taken the comment in the
manner in which it was stated. People were grateful when Ben defended Jeff
when that radio station made a tastless song parodying his death. There is no
venom over this recent comment by Ben, it's seen as a compliment.
Thanks for the concern. And, by no means am I speaking for every member of
the JBEL. But thanks and rest assured that there's no malice.
Love and light to you all!
*becky
>Anyway, my friend sent me the exert of the article, with the warning that
>"JBEL" (Jeff Buckley Eternal Life) or their mailing list, is up in arms over
>the
>quote....so just watch out for the blood thirsty Jeff Buckley fans, and take
>it easy
>on them, they lost their idol...so they have to create new things to be
>excited
>over. Personally, I thought the mention was humble, humorous and a touching
>tribute from our own demi-god to theirs....
>
>- -Kim Southern
>
>
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:49:21 +0000
From: Nancy Bennett <n.bennett@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: class system
>Fans are fans. If they like BFF, they
>like BFF. We are not here to judge them, just to listen to their
>unimportant stories
before, i posted myself as an emiline, but didn't understand, why the
division....so i have to say, i agree with the above post from whoever it
was.... why divide....what brought us all together on the MA was BFF...and
thats all that matters, not how long we have liked them, or how many cd's,
bootlegs, or imports we have, cause thats irrelivent.....or however you
spell it...BFF is one of the greatest bands out there, and all that should
matter is if you enjoy listining to them or not...cause otherwise....its
kind of a put-down..and i doubt ben, darren, and robert would care, cause
we're fans and thats all that matters....well, i had to get that out....so
sorry if that was boring or something.....~Kristi~
"we can be happy underground!"
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:06:03 +0000
From: Andrea Georgeson <amg007@drake.edu>
Subject: RE: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #805
Hiya kids...
This is a helluva way to introduce myself to the list, but I'm
*desparately seeking* tickets (2, maybe) to the STL show on the 14th of this
month.....anyone? Email me at <amg007@drake.edu>
Eternally grateful and willing to muster all the legal tender a poor
college kid can get her hands on,
Andrea
>
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:09:34 EST
From: MeandMrRay@aol.com
Subject: Re: Twin Falls
In a message dated 98-02-04 21:14:57 EST, you write:
<< Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 13:28:18 PST
From: "tom pentzer" <ozuald_5@hotmail.com>
Subject: twin falls
I just got NBP, and living in Idaho, love Twin Falls. Did Ben or anyone
else in the band live in Twin Falls or what?
I wanna borrow some duct tape!
;)-Tom
>>
Hello all,
I feel the need to clear this up one more time...its a shame that no
one reads the liner notes anymore. Twin Falls is a Built to Spill song. Built
to Spill is an amazing band, with four records (one being a b-sides comp.).
The second record "Nothings Wrong with Love" is a masterpiece in pop writting.
Its has the original version of "Twin Falls" on it. Go to the store right now,
and buy it! Its on UP records.
Ok, I'll play along...I guess I'm an Uncle Plastic Bitch...I have a real
problem
Check out my BF5 bootleg list at:
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/meandmrray/benfolds.html">MeandMrRay's Tape
List - Ben Folds Five</A>
(http://members.aol.com/meandmrray/benfolds.html)
I just added a bunch of new stuff to it....
Greg.
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 19:31:03 -0800
From: Susan Park <maven@jetcity.com>
Subject: Re: Rides to Seattle
(Hopefully, this won't be too late to mean something to my fellow Folders:)
Michael Maas wrote:
> Hi, my name is Mike and I go to school at the University of Idaho, in
> Moscow, right across the border from Pullman....
If Ben isn't coming close to Idaho, you should post some letters on the
armchair like so many of us did to get him to Seattle and Portland. (Maybe
we had nothing to do with it, but it's nice to think so!...;-)
> could you give me more info on the hostel at Pike Place? I've been to
> Seattle and the market a number of times, and never heard about it.
The number for the American Youth Hostile in Seattle is 206-622-5443.
Their address is 84 Union St, but you can't get there by car from the top of
Union. Although you can walk down the stairs there. If you're in a car, the
Hostile is closest to the intersection of Union and Western.
There's also a hostile through Green Tortoise in Pike Place Market at 1525
2nd Ave. The number is 206-340-1222.
> I also have friends in Bremerton, so do you know how late the ferries go across?
Washington Ferry information is right at your fingertips at:
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/schedules/current/default.htm
Unfortunately, you won't be able to go right after the concert. The last
ferry leaves at 7:30 and costs $3.50 per person (walk-on or passenger)
or $5.90 for a car & driver. You can, however, drive to Bremerton (last I
checked).
You can also hang out at the Hurricane Cafe on 7th, just off Denny Way. It's
24 hours and 'stremely cool! Cheap eats, too. There's also Denny's on
Mercer near the tip of Lake Union.
Fellow Folder,
Spark
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:26:17 EST
From: BenFoldsJ@aol.com
Subject: Re: Twin Falls question
"Twin Falls" is a Built To Spill cover, guys...
Cheers,
Jordan
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 20:06:12 -0800
From: Tim Wang <twang@abac.com>
Subject: Loveline Appearance
hey all!
Since no one has posted about it, Ben was on Loveline last night (2/3), and
took it really well. Although at some points he seemed uncomfortable, it
sounds like he had a good time. There were a lot of calls praising him,
and most of the time on the show, the calls are for the most part love/sex
related. For those who are unfamiliar with it.. it's a call-in show where
people discuss their love problems. there WERE some questions for ben,
though.. and one of them was regarding Brick... ben went on for what seemed
like 5 minutes discussing the abortion thing, and that he talked to the
girl it was written about to see that she was okay with him talking about
it before its release... i'll entertain maybe a few trade requests... due
to time constraints for anyone that NEEDS to have it :)
take care,
t
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:52:42 -0800 (PST)
From: John Neuharth <neuharth@eskimo.com>
Subject: Twin Falls/BTS & Loveline
1) "Twin Falls" is on the Built to Spill album "There's Nothing
Wrong with Love" CDNow and other online places have all of
their album if you want to order them. All of their stuff is
excellent.
2) I have a tape of the whole Loveline show. If you want to
trade, drop me some mail.
- -John
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:12:46, -0500
From: NPXK46D@prodigy.com ( KYLA DORSEY)
Subject: ATTN: LAURA!!!
Ok, Laura, love, your last letter DID appear 2 armchairs ago, and
I already replied to you in the last armchair, but maybe you missed
it: the Clutch show
in Detroit IS all ages.
..and for that nugget of information you now owe me 2 tickets to the
show.
~Kyla
"We were talking about people that eat meat,
I felt like an ass, cause I was one.
She said "it's ok," but I felt like
I just ate my young."
-Sloan
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:49:08 -0500 (EST)
From: afn61842@afn.org
Subject: Thoughts on NBP (IMO of course) / Gainesville's lost 97X?
Hi all,
I've been rather poor lately, so record-buying had to be halted
right before NBP came out. I hope this doesn't drop me a rung on the class
ladder! (All us poorer BF5 fans unite!) Anywho, I *have* heard 3 songs
from NBP on the radio here and I must say I'm disappointed for the most part:
1) "Emaline" may sound a bit clearer as a studio recording, but the
previously-released live performance (Ziggy's '95 on "Where's Summer B.?"
single) is far superior. In the break with the starts and stops ("...for
stupid reasons...") the live version had a nice rhythm piano part and the
guitar in this one just seems superfluous. The live take just really sounds
like a band who's played it a lot, crafting it to perfection.
2) The "Bad Idea" on NBP is fantastically brutal and fast. It
sounds like a lo-fi 4-track recording with that awesome pounding beat. I
guess this was unacceptable for soundtrack quality though. Viva lo-fi
Rock-n-roll!
3) After only hearing the faster, livelier demo version of "Eddie
Walker" (big thanks again to Jina Conger!), this version almost seems
pitiful. Ben's vocal is pretty uninspired and just plain out-of-tune in
verses and it all seems to plod along wanting to go faster. Sure the demo I
have sounds like a degraded RA file, but at least the power is there on top
of the tape hiss :)
Is the NBP version of "Tom & Mary" less inspired than the Ziggy's
live version, too? I mean, it's a great release for those without any live
recordings, etc., but Caroline would've really had a better album with those
great live tracks and, perhaps, a cleaned-up version of the early, powerful
demo of "Eddie Walker" (they scored big with the early demo of "Bad Idea").
And I had thought the idea of NBP was to *bypass* paying for those pricey
import singles like "Where's Summer B.?"... Sorry for the bitchin', I'm
just bitter I can't go out and buy myself a damn copy! :) Eventually...
On another note, if there are any other listees in Gainesville, FL
(and it *is* 1998, there probably are) I hope you've heard the news. WRRX
97.7 has been bought by the owner of KTK, a large-profit-yielding Adult
Contem...zzzz station in the area. This could mean the end of one of the
most free-form commercial stations in the US. Jerry Gerard has supported
BF5 solidly since the day the self-titled CD came in and interviewed them
when our "college station" Rock104 didn't give a damn. So call 'em @
377-9770 as give your support. Late-night Gainevillians should also give
96.7 and 94.7 a shot... I've already said too much.
Steve
_____________Steve Clay -> afn61842@afn.org_____________
Handclaps & Fingersnaps__Gainesville,FL__Zimmy's Thermos
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:48:55 EST
From: Mystic1879@aol.com
Subject: I must have missed something
For those of whom have hacker brothers. You will understand my heartache. He
so lovingly hacked into my mail yesterday and deleted it all. I was horrified
to find that all of my magical armchairs were deleted and now I have know clue
what the Bf5 classification system is :o(
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE BE KIND TO ME AND EXPLIAIN IT AGAIN
Kudos:
Meredith
mystic1879@aol.com
"We can be happy...underground"
-Bf5
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:03:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Nave <nave@math.washington.edu>
Subject: seattle ticket grovel
I hate for my first post to be a grovel, but that's just the
way it's gotta be. Been so immersed in my thesis work, I had
no idea BFF were coming to town (or that this digest existed)
until yesterday.
If anyone has an xtra for Thursday's show, I would be so grateful.
- -- Lee
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 03:17:18 -0700
From: EtKreitzer@vassar.edu (Ethan Jon Kreitzer)
Subject: The real Joe Jackson comparison
As Joe Jackson's name has been popping up quite a bit lately, I thought I
would point out what I have always observed to be the biggest similarity
(more than the melodica). On Jackson's second record, the premise of the
first track "On Your Radio" is remarkably similar to to our beloved band's
second album's first track. The lyrics are as follows:
"On Your Radio" by Joe Jackson
Ex-friends, ex-lovers and enemies
I've got your cases in front of me, all sewn up
Ex-bosses you never let me be
I got your names and numbers filed away, I've grown up
(chorus) See me, hear me, don't you know you can't get near me
You can only hope to hear me on your radio
You're gonna hear me on your radio
Ex-teachers still coming through to me
Tough kids don't stop trying to kick me to the ground, I don't care
Go on just do what you do to me
You look so sick when you're pushing me around, you're nowhere
(repeat chorus) (end)
Anyways if this was discussed when Whatever was released I missed the
discussion because I was on spring break then, and I hadn't seen this
mentioned before. If it was, sorry for wasting space, but anyways I think
that if Jackson was an influence that had to be a conscious decision to put
that song as first song on second album because from the demos it would
seem to have already been written at time of first album. Ethan Jon
- ---------
The sugar coated pill is getting bitterer still
YOU THINK YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU BUT YOU KNOW IT NEVER WILL
So pack up your troubles in a stolen handbag
DON'T DILLY DALLY BOYS RALLY ROUND THE FLAG--
declan macmanus
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