THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #881 - March 13, 1998
Magical Armchair Digest Friday, March 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 881
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
Bacharach tribute
BFF imports
Bass / Piano help needed
dave-o ain't so bad-o
Next Single
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #877
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #877
B Bands
sorrysorrysorryofftopic
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #870
yet more ramblings about selling out
i hope you evaporate
BF5 aside...
Yeah, I guess that post was a LITTLE immature!
lyric answer
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #878
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #877
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:40:00 EST
From: Rosejmort <Rosejmort@aol.com>
Subject: Bacharach tribute
Someone asked if the Bacharach tribute would be open to the public. I saw on
the mtv website that tickets will go on on sale Monday, March 16. The event
will be held at the Manhattan Center.
Hope all the New York Ben Folds Five fans will fill up the room :)
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:14:23 -0500
From: dave1179@juno.com
Subject: BFF imports
QUESTION: does anybody know where in the DC area I can find BFF
singles / imports? I've managed to find the albums, but I can't find
anything else.. (including Loungapalooza) Where do / did all fo you get
your stuff? I've thouroughly given up on finding them up here in the NYC
area, but I figure when I'm in DC, there's a better chance of finding
stuff down there.. HELP!!!!
Dave
"If they haven't found out already, it's gonna blow their mind"
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:09:45 -0500
From: dave1179@juno.com
Subject: Bass / Piano help needed
Does anybody know where i can get my hands on some bass tablature
or piano sheet music for BFF stuff? (Specifically Eddie Walker, Kate,
Tom and Mary, Song for the Dumped, and Philosophy) I have this band thing
with some friends of mine at college, and I'm trying to convert them to
BFF fandom.. If anyone can help me out, could you let me know? I've
tried finding the sheet music books, but they're either sold out or out
of print =( Thanks!
Dave
"Here I am, sad and free..."
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:29:13 EST
From: Corrin108 <Corrin108@aol.com>
Subject: dave-o ain't so bad-o
In a message dated 98-03-11 23:08:55 EST, dave wrote:
<< If you want to keep up the argument privatley, fine. I just want to get
back
to the fascinating "the boys are playing brick on rosie tomarrow" topics we
used to have. God forbid we ever have an argument. >>
Actually, I was having fun arguing. Bring it on Dave-o, Im waiting...and very
bored at that.
Corinne-o
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:38:34 EST
From: DanDWarhol <DanDWarhol@aol.com>
Subject: Next Single
Hey all. I, too, think that this Brick thing as a single kind of sucks, in
that they ahve much better songs not being recognized. But I also realize that
music groups rarely have control over what singles are going to be released
(only music giants like REM Rolling Stones). So the fact that Brick was
released had nothing to do with the band, other than the fact that they sing
it. However, after this Brick thing dies down, the group will have to find
another single. I know that it is still a little early because Brick is doing
so well on the charts, but eventually a new single will be released. And I
know just the song: Song for the Dumped. One can only hope that the industry
and record company will have enough balls to release and play the song. Edit
out the "fuck you too" and its ready to go. For those who think that the
"bitch" part will be a problem, all i have to say is:
Meredith Brooks: "Bitch"
Elton John: "The Bitch is Back"
Prodigy: "Smack my Bitch Up"
All were succesful singles. So lets start pushing Song for the Dumped. And who
knows, maybe it will become an anthem for people who were dumped.
Also, I just wanted to add that I was at the rehearsal of Ben Folds Five
appearance on SNL. For those of you who aren't farmiliar with the Saturday
Night Live set-up, this is how it works. On Saturday Night, at about 7 pm, NBC
brings in an entire audience to watch the show. At these rehearsals, SNL will
show about 5 extra skits and throw in a couple extra dirty jokes to see what
the audience like and what they can slip past the censors. Well, anyway, my
point is at that rehearsal Ben Folds Five played Brick (which aired live as
you all know later that night), but what you DIDNT see was that they also
played a kick-ass version of One Angry Dwarf and Two Hundred Solemn Faces. It
was the extended live version, also, not the way it ends on the album.
ok, this is long enough. anyone agree with me on Song For the Dumped? It
really captures the essence of the group...MUCH more than Brick. And anyone
whos been dumped can relate.
Aaron
PS- I also went to the hammerstein show on Feb 20...anyone know why it wasnt a
live at the 10 spot on mtv..it was scheduled to be, but was canceled. And no,
I don't have bootleg copies, so dont ask.
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:41:54 EST
From: KRDinLA <KRDinLA@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #877
*********<< <2. Are they going to release a new single or video from WEAE?
If so, any ideas as to what it will be?>>
I'm not sure about this one. Word is that Song For the Dumped was being
discussed as a single, but I really couldn't see that happening. It just
doesn't seem "radio-friendly" enough. C'mon..."Give me my money back, you
<silence>!"???
>>****************************************************************************
Um, I think that Meredith Brooks proved the above statement wrong. As a radio
geek, I feel the need to point out that Song For the Dumped could very well be
a single played on the radio, if they wanted it to be. And the *fuck* line
could even be played during safe harbor hours (overnight). But I think
there's a lot stronger material on WEAE that I would like to see released
first. :) But that's just me.
Btw, I'm new to AOL and this list and I hope I am doing this right! Is anyone
from the LA area and if so, did you catch the kickin' show at Dalt's Grill in
Burbank (Fri 2/27) when KROQ did "Breakfast with Ben Folds Five"? I sat 10
feet from Ben's piano and got some nice pictures of DARREN. It was orgasmic.
:) - Kristen
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:00:35 +0000 (GMT)
From: Richard Cheng <richard.cheng@st-edmund-hall.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #877
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:07:16 -0600
> From: chdevers@juno.com (steven dedalus)
> >Subject: The BEES ness
> what, are the _beatles_ just too obvious to mention or something? and a
> bunch of others (i'm guessing some might not go over well with this
> audoience, but oh well) (my favorites have been _underscored_): black
> crowes, _big black_, birthday party, bb king, belly, _breeders_, beastie
> boys, _mission_of_burma_, _david_bowie_, bluetip, _bad_brains_, 3rd bass,
> boogie down productions, blake babies, _blues_explosion_, the bad seeds,
> bad company, frank black, bob marley, black 47, bone dry system, billy
> joel, ...uhh, back, brahms, & _beethoven_. and of course billy idol.
> can't forget billy idol. hehe...
barenaked ladies. (great band)
bananarama...
no, wait...
rich
surely _missio_of_burma_ begins with an 'M'
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:52:01 -0500
From: phaedonely@juno.com (J. M Donely)
Subject: B Bands
Best Kissers In The World (the name kicks ass)
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy
Boy Wonder
and the one, the only...
BEASTIE BOYS!!!!!
Im ALWAYS looking in either B or P for cds. P is for Portishead and Liz
Phair.
~Elisabeth
"All Liz Phair, all Liz Phair in love....."
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:56:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Richard Cheng <richard.cheng@st-edmund-hall.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: sorrysorrysorryofftopic
> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:04:25 -0600
> From: John.Craven@infores.com (John Craven)
> Subject: RE: BFF & Burt Bacharach
this isn't john craven off john craven's newsround is it?
that would be too cool
you british types know what i'm talking about.
rich
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:20:54 EST
From: Lanharika <Lanharika@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #870
In a message dated 98-03-09 22:59:12 EST, you write:
<< >>
In answer to Laertes78's question about the meaning of "Brick."
The song "Brick" is about a young man (late teens) who is dealing with the
pregnancy of his girlfriend, and the abortion she has. This is supposed to be
a true story of when Ben Folds, the lead singer had a girlfriend who also had
an abortion when he was a senior in high school. I read this in and article
on BFF in the CMJ new music magazine......
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:07:02 EST
From: Corrin108 <Corrin108@aol.com>
Subject: yet more ramblings about selling out
In a message dated 98-03-11 23:08:36 EST, someone wrote:
<< I think that
selling out is making music for the money. That's my personal definition of
it. >>
Actually, selling out is not making music for money, but compromising your
beliefs for money or fame. There is a huge difference in the two.
<<I mean, yeah, Godzilla
<WILL be a big movie and it probably cost a lot of money to make, but I don't
<think this is the reason BF5 agreed to do the soundtrack.>>
True, but I dont think there would be anything wrong with taht anyway.
There's nothing wrong with making money.
<<I think we should all stop worrying about BF5's popularity and Brick
meanings
<and selling out and teenybopper fans and focus on the fact that there is this
<band that's creating fantastic music, and we all think they're wonderful, so
<we're on this list.>>
Sing it, sista.
Corinne-o
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:17:01 EST
From: Corrin108 <Corrin108@aol.com>
Subject: i hope you evaporate
In a message dated 98-03-11 23:08:36 EST, someone wrote:
<< But to realize that my little band, Ben Folds Five, and their terribly
cute and touching songs about agnst, are being played on this stupid ass
boring teen drama as breakup music! Its sacrilege! Kevin Williamson, kiss
my ass after you stop hitting on the new teen zeitgist!!!!!
Im mad.
Ben Folds Five on the same show with Paula Cole for a theme song and
overused Third Eye Blind.
See...I think they were trying to show Dawson's inner pain...and he was
stealing Ben's! >>
get over yourself or shut-up. You are rediculous. Do you really like BF5?
Well, then you should be happy for them and for whoever got to hear it. It's
still the same music. Stop crying becuase they aren't "your little band" any
more....if you want them to be they are.
Oh, and one more thing.....You seem to know a very lot about a show that you
claim to despise....go figure.
Corinne-o
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:32:39 -0500
From: Nhu_Nguyen@post.wesleyan-college.edu (Nhu Nguyen)
Subject: BF5 aside...
okay so i was reading in Barnes & Noble and found this music magazine called
AP...not sure what issue it was but it's got Radiohead and Cornershop
interviews in it i think...anyways...i found a picture of ben folds five in it
and how they were on leno, letterman, and o'brein...wasn't Much on them but had
that picture...i'm pretty sure it's in the most recent issue...sorry for lack
of info on what mag. is about...though they did mention Pavement...
debbie
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:04 -0500
From: "John Felten" <Sammy7@gte.net>
Subject: Yeah, I guess that post was a LITTLE immature!
Okay, I admit that post I made was immature, even though that "Dave-O" guy
was making me mad. But will people stop using my post in their posts!
It's over people. Don't drag it on.
Another thing, I am 13, I will admit that, but I do not just like "Brick".
That was the song that introduced me to them. Then I bought all of their
cds. Don't think I am one of those kids that only love the over-played
"Brick".
One more thing, I don't just like Ben Folds Five for their great music, but
I like it also because of the deep meaning some of their songs have. They
are a great band, and I want to give them props for that.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Gees, how many people have written posts on the
band being a sell out? Is the band aloud to be on a soundtrack without
people jumping on their backs? I guess not. And what is with everyone
being so mad finally when this band is getting pretty popular???! You
should be happy that the band is doing so well, when just years ago Ben
totally gave up.
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:19, -0500
From: PFJH05D@prodigy.com (MISS JESSICA R BORASH)
Subject: lyric answer
she's whispering to the moon, i hope you don't join her soon. baby
bop climbs up from his soap box. hey, that sounds funny. have you
people ever read any of those mess up song lyric books like scuse me
while i kiss this guy and when a man loves a walnut? they are funny,
and that just made me think of it.
HEY GUYS, COME TO RICHMOND, VA!!! WE MISS YOU!
jeskuh =>
and all my dreams they pivot and slip
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:13:57 -0600
From: "John.J.Mc-Nulty-1" <jmcnulty@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #878
To Al, Rocket no 8, I believe Ben is singing something like, "step up on
your soapbox, great caesar's ghost..." in Jackson Cannery.
Often Wrong but Never in Doubt,
Oklahoma Joe
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:24:08 EST
From: Rocket no8 <Rocketno8@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #877
<< Word is that Song For the Dumped was being
discussed as a single, but I really couldn't see that happening. It just
doesn't seem "radio-friendly" enough. C'mon..."Give me my money back, you
<silence>!"??? >>
if they do promote SFTD as a single(and i hope they do), i doubt most radio
stations will blank out anything other than the "f--- you too" part. remember
how popular and uncensored Merideth Brooks' song was? the word "bitch" is no
longer a media taboo.
<<2. - Ben Holds Five
-Tickets $6.50
-Also get tickets for Kristen and Dave>>
haha, if only tickets were just $6.50!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i would like to take a moment for BF5 fans in Maryland:there's a great free-
form station based in Anapolis, WRNR(103.1)and i've heard them play many a
non-single BF5 track, such as "evaporated" and "philosophy." they also take
requests.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
people, people who listen to Ben Folds Five, are the luckiest people in the
world.
- -al
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