THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #884 - March 14, 1998
Magical Armchair Digest Saturday, March 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 884
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
BFF on TV
Hidden Track
"s is my favorite letter" or "Naked in the pool"
Hello, McFly!!
"Poll results#2" or "have you seen Dawson's Creek?"
I'm gotta here
retarded(bad idea)
Swing
Hey...
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #879
BF5 post on steely dan site
bad idea...those ARE the REAL lyrics
lyrics
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #880
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #880
REM similarity
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #879
Chill
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:13:15 -0500
From: Mike Wilkinson <mwzoso@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: BFF on TV
I've noticed lately all the talk of BFF being used as background music for
TV shows (e.g.:Dawson's Creek, The View...). And it reminded me of a
little while ago when I was flipping throgh the channels, and right past
the winter Olympics, when I notice Tom and Mary being played in the
background of this little report on some Olympic gymnist. Did anyone else
notice this? (Did anyone even watch the Olympics this year?)
Ta' ta' for now...
"Wilson"
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:14:54 EST
From: Mojique <Mojique@aol.com>
Subject: Hidden Track
At a show in Palm Beach, Ben introduced
the guy who says "Ben Folds is a fu*kin' asshole"
at the end of the CD.
He's a roadie or a sound guy or something, I forget
his name.
Clay
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:23:13 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: "s is my favorite letter" or "Naked in the pool"
Daniel wrote:
>>I personally don't think Brick is similar to any other song that I have
heard, but a friend of mine, who hates BFF, said that when he heard the
start of brick, he thought it was REM's Nightswim(which I have never
heard), he also said that Helen Rasier (Triple J afternoon radio announcer
in Australia) also said the same thing.
I haven't been on the list long, and I have never seen anyone else mention
this, so I thought I would bring it up, though, like I said, I have never
heard Nightswim, so I don't know about it's legitimacy.<<
"Nightswimming" is my favorite REM song of all time. A wonderful wonderful
piece. It's similar to Brick in 3 ways--It has a piano, a string section
(Robert used the string bass) it's slow, and that's about it. the topics
are different (nightswimming is about skinny dipping and life in general,
and brick is about going to the vet)and the melody isn't really close.
But it's a great song nonetheless. You should get a copy of Automatic for
the People.
jess
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:30 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: Hello, McFly!!
Kyla wrote:
>>Actually I just want to know what he says
in the very first verse...Pull over the Car, Pull over the car, I
think I see ___________???? WHAT? What does he see????? HELP!!!!!<<
Actually, the "fly fisher" part is totally correct....for one version of
"bad Idea"...you see, there's two. in one he sings the "fly
fisher/dad--siser" lines. in the other one, well, God know what he says.
something about Squirrels? hehe
FireyLox wrote:
>>Am I the only one who thinks that Darren is saying "CEC" after Alan
Wolmark? I think it's "CEC".Not "See the CD's." Maybe. <<
No i'm pretty sure he's saying "it's the E.C." meaning the East
Coast...Like you know, the EC rappers....they represent. (and don't ask me
WHAT they represent...duh...)
jess
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Visit Cousin Jess's World Wide Mess at
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:54:20 -0500
From: Jessica Brandt <jbrandt@kent.edu>
Subject: "Poll results#2" or "have you seen Dawson's Creek?"
Well here's the second installment of the BFF Fans around the world survey.
*Please note that in both #1 and #2 there are fans who would like to meet
other fans from their country! Please help them out by maiing them*
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AUSTRALIA:
Kate Watkins <Kate_Watkins%HBH@themis.com.au>--24, Toowoomba, Queensland;
heard "Underground" on JJJ, saw them at Livid, Her best friend's brother
played on the same stage and has a picture of him and ben. WOULD LIKE TO
MEET OTHER AUSSIE FANS.
"Alison Medhurst" <medhursta@knoxy.agvic.gov.au>--25, Melbourne,
technologycally slow (just recently joined MA but has been a fan for ages),
saw the band in Melbourne, can't wait till they come back.
CANADA:
Heather Kemp <dkemp@baynet.net>20, Thunder Bay, Ontario, "got into bff
after some prodding by a close friend in Seattle, got WAEA free cuz she'd
filled up her CD card at HMV...thought that if she didn't like it, at least
she didn't really pay for it, but loved it and bought the self-titled one
the next day. :) still looking for Naked Baby Photos, argh, it's really
annoying living in Northwestern Ontario."
Jeff Jackson <j940651@hotmail.com>--no age, Welland Ontario, went 4 hours
to Syracuse NY to see HORDE, got hooked on BFF, went to Lakewood OH to see
them on Halloween (aka JJ, as am I!!)
UNITED KINGDOM:
Ben "B.D.WATTS" <tl6304@qmw.ac.uk>--no age, Hastings England, "reads" law
at "uni" in London, Lives for Ben Folds Five, has seen every show in
london, has half of a guitar they smashed at a show in Nov. of 96
Anna (or @nn@) <mikgle@globalnet.co.uk>--16, Exeter, Devon England,never
seen BFF but PROMISES she will, life's ambition: to play "Philosophy" on
pino, sings along sometimes in a horribly overdone southern accent or
sarcastically Brittish one, hoped to see the boys at Glastonbury, but will
be in France (boo hoo)
Richard Cheng <richard.cheng@st-edmund-hall.oxford.ac.uk>--no age,
Canterbury, is Welsh,likes BFF, does not like Canterbury. (i think he needs
a hug)
THE NETHERLANDS:
Joy van Walsum-Bayard <vanwalsum@wxs.nl>--no age, Holland, saw BFF at Der
MElkweg a year ago, has a 2 year old daughter who sings "Gimme my money
back you bitch" in pre-school, Ben and Robert made mention of it at the
show, the baby says it's HER song, "pray"s that they come back soon (maybe
the baby is Ben's?)
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There you go. Once again, if you're not from the continental US and would
like to see your name in print, please send me an e-mail with your name,
age, country/city/state/province, and something interesting about your
relationship with BFF.
If you didn't see results #1, you can send me e-mail and i will forward
them to you.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:16:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Ruffner <micropop@yahoo.com>
Subject: I'm gotta here
Having been on the Armchair since digest Numero Uno, I've stuck it out
putting up with a lot of bull on this list recently. Namely the over
reaction to the SNL appearance and the less than flattering reviews of
NBP. But these comments from "Frank" FM3 Red5 <FM3Red5@aol.com> are
the straw that breaks the camels back:
> you are the dumbest person on earth...get off the > list you
retard!!!!!...my
> god...hi can we please please have real ben folds > five fans on
this list...my
> god...what is the world coming to...1st fake BFF >fans at the
shows...now fake
> BFF fans on the list...what a world..
> again another stupid fan...does anyone listen to WAEA > till the end
of the
> cd?????
> Its the best song damnit!!!!
> Frank
Just remember that BFF fans come in all different sizes, shapes and
colors. All of us have been BFF "newbies" at one point.
As far as BFF selling out they haven't. Signing with a major label
for the chance of more people being exposed to your music has it
risks. I sometimes feel that getting signed to a major label is a
fate worse then death. More often then not, bands end up getting
screwed by their labels. They either up deep in debt having to pay
back the label for costs associated with promoting them. And the only
way to recover is to declare bankruptcy or breaking up. Or they get
completely ignored by the label and get little promotional support
again being forced to break up to get out of their contracts.
I would guess neither of these things will happen to the boys and I
wish them the best of luck in the future.
chris
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:53 -0600
From: "Margaret E. Peck" <m_peck@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: retarded(bad idea)
i don't know maybe i'm wrong but i think it's
pull over the car
pull over the car
i think i see some sweets growin' round
i have no idea what the rest is
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:13:23 PST
From: "Nick Scott" <nickscott09@hotmail.com>
Subject: Swing
I thought it would be cool if everyone was doing some swing dancing at
BF5 concerts. Seeing everyone in suits and dresses paired up and
dancing the night away would probably be a cool rush for the guys
instead of them watching the audience stand and stare. It would also be
a lot better than a bunch of moronic kids moshing to songs like
Philosophy and BOWCCL (what's with that?). Just a thought...
Nick
P.S. P-bands: The Pixes, Pond, The Philosopher Kings, Pavement,
Portishead, Pearl Jam...
"You'll have to excuse me, I'm not at my best.
I've been drunk for a week; I've been drunk since I left."
--Spirit of the West
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:39:29 +0000
From: paul.leung@virgin.net (paul.leung@virgin.net)
Subject: Hey...
Hello there,
how is everybody? Well, it's nice to hear from some armchair members
(cynthia, Michael, Marc etc.)
I've just got a couple questions I'd like to ask. First of all, anybody
know who Eddie Walker was written about? I'd really like to know, cos
his life sounds really great! Also, when the hell are Ben Folds Five
coming to England? It's taking far too long, they were last here ages
ago, like December last, and well, I can't wait much longer. Chris
Moyles alone can't keep his campaign up, we need a tour from them.
Hope all is well.
Anthony
rich in oxford? I don't think so. John Craven may be Cool, but not that
cool.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:18:55 -0600 (CST)
From: "Ernest P. Worrell" <nmathews@mork.uni.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #879
I always thought it was "Baby Balls climbs up on his soapbox, Gracie's new
ghost knows whats best for me.
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Cross Country: Finally a practical use for golf courses
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:24:11 EST
From: Rosejmort <Rosejmort@aol.com>
Subject: BF5 post on steely dan site
They're even discussing Ben Folds Five on the Steely Dan website: (post dated
2/28/98)
>>>>Roy--I DO know that this is not the Ben Folds 5 page, but maj just gave us
a nice Steely tie-in. This week's "New Yorker" gives them a feature AND pic in
"Night Life": "Though there's nothing particularly original about this likable
trio from Chapel Hill, its ability to channel 'square' piano-driven pop a la
old Billy Joel and Elton John (and, to be fair, Todd Rundgren and Freddie
Mercury on their pianocentric classics) and marry it to a post-punk
sensibility makes the group stand out from its techno and guitar-powered
coevals like a black-and-white thumb. Singer Ben Folds is a major talent: an
excellent singer and a songwriter of earthly pain." Oh well. How ya gonna keep
'em down on the farm (in Carolina)...? My dream of seeing them here is melting
away. >>>>
Thought you guys might appreciate this.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:42:02 -0500
From: Whitney Smith <whittyp@SURRY.NET>
Subject: bad idea...those ARE the REAL lyrics
Um...yeah...Kyla Dorsey, I think you commented on how the lyrics posted at
www.lyrics.com for Bad Idea weren't correct. WELL...those ARe the real
lyrics. Those are the lyrics that they used to sing on some tours.
Pull over the car
Pull over the car
I think I see a fly fisher
Pull over the car
Pull over the car
My dad wants to break up with your sister
(chorus)
I don't wanna
"
"
"
You make me feel
Make me feel retarded
Can't leave it alone
Jerk off on the phone
I want you to come on over
Pretty bad idea
Pretty bad idea
Really really bad idea
(chorus)
When I stood you up
I thought that you'd give up
Now I realize you're just like a dog
(chorus)
You make me feel so retarded
You make me feel so...
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:44:59 -0500
From: Whitney Smith <whittyp@SURRY.NET>
Subject: lyrics
I would just like to mention that if anybody has a question on any of bf5's
lyrics, I would more then likely be able to answer it. That way you could
just mail me with your questions instead of cluttering up the armchair.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:17:37 EST
From: JGreenb106 <JGreenb106@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #880
In a message dated 98-03-13 00:19:49 EST, you write:
<<
I've always wondered, who is this guy? What relation does this guy have
to.... anything?
>>
Isn't that guy Darren Jessee? It sure sounds like him. I think that's who it
is.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:19:46 EST
From: JGreenb106 <JGreenb106@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #880
In a message dated 98-03-13 00:19:49 EST, you write:
<<
I've always wondered, who is this guy? What relation does this guy have
to.... anything?
>>
>>
Isn't that guy Darren Jessee? It sure sounds like him. I think that's who it
is.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:20:20 PST
From: "* rachel *" <madforit79@hotmail.com>
Subject: REM similarity
Wed, 11 Mar 1998 "Daniel Hirning"<dhirning@uuscss.cs.su.oz.au>
<<<<<I personally don't think Brick is similar to any other song that I
have heard, but a friend of mine, who hates BFF, said that when he heard
the start of brick, he thought it was REM's Nightswim(which I have never
heard)>>>>>
hmmmm....well, now that you mention it, they do sound similar..Night
Swimming is off of REM's Automatic for the People cd....um I think it is
the piano intro that makes them sound alike....IMHO they're both good
songs!
laters...
me voy,
*rachel*
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/7070
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:58:20 EST
From: Vix456 <Vix456@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #879
Hi,
Would it be possible that the lyrics seen in the www.lyrics.ch website were
the ones from the Truth About Cats and Dogs soundtrack? I think the entire
song sounds different than the version that appears on NBP.
:) Vicki
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:32:42 -0500
From: John Lateulere III <johnl@marinar.net>
Subject: Chill
- --- ?? on the Dawson's Creek Episode song deleted for space reasons. ---
>you are the dumbest person on earth...get off the list you retard!!!!!...my
>god...hi can we please please have real ben folds five fans on this list...my
>god...what is the world comming to...1st fake BFF fans at the shows...now
fake
>BFF fans on the list...what a world..
>
>Frank
Frank... heh man, chill... there are some people that DO actually like the
band, and DO want to learn a little about it, the person that wrote the
origional in seems like one of them, they aren't "fake" fans becasue they
haven;t been listening to them as long as you. Sometimes it is the person
that is yelling at such aperson that may be a fake fan. Let people learn
more about a band, if they are looing beyond "Brick" then they obviously
want to know more aobut them, I wonder what Ben Fold would say now...
hm... I am truly disappointed in your attitude against new people enjoying
the music, not everybody can be as cool as you, and not every new listener
is a teeny nazi like you think they are, there can be genuine new listeners
just as you were at one time, remember you are talking to yourself a while
ago...
John
johnl@marinar.net
lateuljf@email.uc.edu
"The lord works in mysterous ways"
Elwood Blues, (Blues Brothers 2000, repeated a thousand times..)
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