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The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #890 - March 17, 1998



Magical Armchair Digest    Tuesday, March 17 1998    Volume 01 : Number 890



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    Basketball, Selling Out, and all this craziness
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #885
    Re: Eddie Walker and the C/Net central broadcast
    sorry for askin!
    missing the song
    Spring Tour Concert Tickets
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #887
    misheard lyrics
    producers
    Spin Spin! Spin The Black Circle!
    Battle of the Intro to Kate, Part IV
    Re: ben's citezenship
    Re: what do BFF do at concerts?
    BFF should be prescribed for depression.
    Re: bf5 a capella
    Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #887

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:22:34 EST
From: FunShnBear <FunShnBear@aol.com>
Subject: Basketball, Selling Out, and all this craziness

Hello, Hello, your favorite teeny bopper here with some comments on questions
that were ignored, and the overall craziness of the list lately.

First off, someone asked about what Ben Folds Five thought about basketball
(or something to that effect or affect.. I don't know) All I know about this
subject is that in Lawrence (home of the Kansas Jayhawks, that sadly lost
today) Robert and Ben made up this song about how Danny Manning lived 4 houses
away from Robert, and it was one of those cute catchy improv songs that they
usually do. Robert was talking about how there's some sort of connection
between North Carolina and Kansas because of Basketball. I don't know, he was
rambling.

Final word on the whole selling out thing. I know this has been voiced
repeatedly *but* just because a band gets popular, doesn't mean that they sold
out. Ok.. that's nice.

And to tell the truth I'm really sick of this whole back and forth insulting.
It's really wearing on my nerves. And although I have no real power in this
whole matter, I would just like to say that there was a time where this list
was one happy family, and  I personally enjoyed meeting people from the list
at shows, but now I'm not sure if I would be brave enough to meet some of
them! (Just kidding, but could you please clean it up just a little bit)

I did post for a reason though, and that is, Emily from Chicago.. could you e-
mail me again, 'cause when you e-mailed me, I lost it, and I would love to
write you back.

- - Katie

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:23:08 EST
From: HAM12HAM <HAM12HAM@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #885

i know this question probably gets really freiken annoying but....does anyone
know where i can ascore some phat singles and imports?????  please don/t
hesitate to e-mail me HAM12HAM@aol.com

                                                                    Sincerely-
                                                           One Angry Dwarf who
forgot to stop the bus

                                              

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:06:41 EST
From: Debra1495 <Debra1495@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Eddie Walker and the C/Net central broadcast

Hello all.  Been a while since I have posted.  Hope all is well out there with
y'all.

First, in refrence to the Eddie Walker speculation:  Eddie is alive and well,
(and contrary to Ben's comical remark, not in a halfway house) playing drums
in 2 bands with Ben's very own brother, Chuck Folds, and Snuzz Uzzell.  They
are Bus Stop, and Snuzz.  Check 'em out, buy their CD's, give 'em all your
money, and your undying devotion.  They deserve it.

As we all know, Ben likes to take the names of some people, and mixes them
with the stories of others, so I doubt Eddie's life is as grim as it sounds.
(Check out the song "Eddie" on Bus Stop's CD, A Little Faster)

Secondly, did anyone catch the nifty little blurb on USA networks show C/Net
central.  It was fantastic.  Ben did a little improv song about how the
internet broadcast would look like a Godzilla movie, "Jerky as hell, but
that's allright"  and in the tiny interview, Robert said it was like stop
motion claymation.  

Did anyone else sense Darren's sarcasm when he said it was ok, but unless you
had some kind of virtual reality, you wouldn't get the real experience of
being in the middle of the crowd with the smell of beer all around.  Precious.

Sorry I've rambled-thanks for reading.  Oh, and I am glad the sell-out thing
is over.  Dave-o, the parody was clever!

Deb
Debra1495@aol,com

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:26:46 EST
From: HAM12HAM <HAM12HAM@aol.com>
Subject: sorry for askin!

Since ive been an armchairer(is that a word) for about 2 months now i know you
all have heard this question a million times but since its my first time
asking it..i dont feel guilty for being annoying. Does anybody know how i can
get phat imports or singles.(You thought i was gonna ask about brick didnt
ya). 
Also anyone know when BF5 are coming back to NY i was away for the past two
shows...sucks doesnt it!
For those of ya'll complainen about bricks success, give it a rest already!Ben
Folds is finally being rewarded for his art and all you can do is complain
that youre not part of the "cool" underground scene..i was a little pissed at
first too but then i realized just b/c i've been selfish for two years about
Bf5 music doesnt mean the rest of the world cant enjoy it....
go ahead u could laugh all you want.....i got my philosophies.
                                                                      
                                                 - mike
e-mail me about the imports or just to say whats up....HAM12HAM@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:31:05 -0600
From: chdevers@juno.com (abe froman) 
Subject: missing the song

***** (hidden post) *****
>I am so bummed! Y'all are talking about that track on the end of 
>"Evaporated." But, mine doesn't have it! I tried to leave it go, after 
>the song, but, it just stops. Anyone know what's up? 

you're not missing much. it's about 90 seconds or something after the
last track, and the hidden track -- if it even qualifies as such -- is
just ten seconds or so of some guy ranting:
	"you want a hidden track?
	i've got your hidden track _right_here_!
	Ben Folds is a _fucking_asshole_!!"
followed by a roomful of laughter. 
that's it.
i might have thr phrasing wrong but that's the idea.
no music or anything.
no big deal.
just some irritable guy...

***** cover song suggestions *****
"california dreaming" -- mamas and the papas
"lola" -- the kinks
"good guys don't wear white" -- minor threat
"ironman" -- black sabbath
"that train don't stop here" -- los lobos
"8" -- sunny day real estate 
	(to whoever first mentioned this: what a _great_ idea )
"100%" -- sonic youth
"minnie the moocher" -- cab calloway
"cross town traffic" -- jimi hendrix
"me and julio down by the schoolyard" -- paul simon
"eleanor rigby" or "day in the life" -- the beatles
"suffragette city" -- david bowie
"my generation", "my generation", or "substitute" -- the who
"do you remember rock and roll radio" -- the ramones
"white rabbit" -- jefferson airplane (or whatever they went by at that
point...)
"superstition" and/or "big brother" -- stevie wonder
"life during wartime" -- talking heads
"freeze" -- robyn hitchcock
funky ceili" -- black 47
"misty mountian hop" -- led zeppelin
"singapore" -- tom waits
"wish" -- nine inch nails (hehe...)
"rebel yell" -- billy idol (hehehehehe...)

my my what a long list that was.
actually, i'd be happy with just the billy idol cover...
...giggle...


- --chris

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Where are you from, Damien?"
"The seventh layer of Hell!"
"Oh nice. [I'm] from Alabama..."

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:49:56 -0500
From: redrum <redrum29@earthlink.net>
Subject: Spring Tour Concert Tickets

Hello.  I must ask if anyone has any info on how to acquire tickets to
the April 29 show in Durham, NC.  Any, all help would be appreciated, as
I am going to cease breathing (not permanently hopefully) if i do not
have access to the show in question.  Also, if anyone happens to get
them and I am unable, I am willing to set up SOME way to go.  I have
money, lots of it.  (I'm very interested in going, you see, and I am
worried I will not get to.)  Help me!

Also, on a side note, one local radio station here near Greensboro, NC
(well, local for me, prolly not for most of you) played Whatever & Ever
Amen in its entirety this afternoon, I noticed as I returned from a
lovely trip up the country.  They finally get something on the air other
than Brick, though it was included, of course.

As always, I must plug my own site, with one measly transcription of
Brick (which I can hardly stand to play anymore...)  The address would
be http://home.earthlink.net/~redrum29/
That's all folks.  I'll go back to drinking my pepsi now.

Hail Pepsi!
Justin

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:53:41 EST
From: JGreenb106 <JGreenb106@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #887

In a message dated 98-03-15 21:57:08 EST, you write:

<< 
 What are the lyrics to Eddie Walker about? It sounds like a guy who's
 suffered a traumatic death, and is in some sort of "Waiting Room" before
 reaching Heaven where he's putting his life into perspective. Any takers?
  >>
I always thought it was pretty much like that--- he's not necessarily in
heaven, but he's looking back at his life and thinking about how wrong
everything went.

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:08:38 EST
From: Littlela17 <Littlela17@aol.com>
Subject: misheard lyrics

hi everybody,
Its my first post and i have a little story.  Yesterday I let my friend listen
to WAEA and she started listening to One Angry Dwarf.  All of the sudden she
started laughing hysterically.  When I asked her what was wrong she said she
thought Ben was say "One angry porn fan" instead of the lyrics we all know and
love.  Then she looked at the booklet thingy and realized that she needed to
get her hearing checked.  Havent we all heard the lyrics of a song wrong at
one point or another?  I know i have but I found my friends mistake very
funny.
Adios,
Laura =)

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:26:04 -0500
From: schander@juno.com (joe s schanderson) 
Subject: producers

Someone wrote:

>the only way i'll decree that they've sold out is if they get someone
other
>than Caleb Southern to produce their next album.


I almost hope they do get someone different. I think Southern has done a
GREAT job but sometimes a different producer can really bring out some
wonderful, different qualities. Looking through many of my bands, they
often experiment with producers. 

If they get babyface to produce the next album then I'll think they "sold
out."


michigan joe

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:42:10 -0500
From: Richard Challen <rchallen@clemson.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Spin Spin! Spin The Black Circle!

To whoever was asking about BF5 vinyl, I believe it's kinda rare but
certainly not COMPLETELY gone, like the "Wheres Summer B?" import single
or something (which is out-of-print, meaning you can't order one no
mo'). Check your cool indie record store and see what they can do for
you. 
  If that don't work, I also offer this gesture WITH STIPULATIONS: I can
order both the S/T album and WAEA on vinyl for anyone having trouble
getting 'em. But...
THE STIPULATIONS:
1) The order WILL take a while! I'm very busy now anyways, but ordering
vinyl from distributors always seems to take a long time regardless.
Sorry, that's how it is.
2) I might not be able to get 'em! I don't THINK they're out-of-print,
but these things can change.
3) The price might change, too! (See #2) I picked up S/T for 10 bucks,
but prices have been known to go up as quantity goes down. (Damn
capitalism.) Plus it'll take me a few extra bucks to mail it to you.
Don't think I'm making a profit, but neither am I about to lose money.
I'm just providing the service for the good karma and hey, I manage a
record store here in SC... So a (very) little bit of sales comes back to
me.
Anyway, email me privately (NOT ON ARMCHAIR!) for details. Offer void in
Alaska and Hawaii... unless you're a nice person...

- --rICH



Visit The RICH Homepage and check out the brand-new CD, 
LIFE/DEATH... 15 songs of romance and retribution... 
Available independently from Desperate Man Records.
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 23:19:10 -0600
From: Michael Bluejay <bluejay@mail.com>
Subject: Battle of the Intro to Kate, Part IV

Goddammit, I hate trying to type up musical notes on email.  Thanks to 
Will Canzoneri who pointed out that I typed A# when I meant to type Ab.  
Well, at least I was *playing* it correctly, even if I didn't *type* it 
correctly.  So, here's the intro to Kate again, corrected.  I hope this 
is the last post I ever make in my life on this subject.  My web page has 
been corrected as well.

  Chord:  F (remember, play as eighth notes)
  Bass:   F,  G  A  C
          F,  Ab A  C,  D  F
          F,  G  A  C,  D  F
        * F,  Ab A  C,  D  F  *(bass guitar comes in here)
          F,  G  A  C,  D  F
          F,  Ab A  C,  D  F
          F,  G  A  C,  D  F
          F,  Ab A  C,  D  F
          F,  G  A  C,  D  F

Also, friendly reminder, please don't email me asking about 
transcriptions of songs that aren't on my web site.  If I had time to 
transcribe every song, they'd be there already.

Love,




- -- Michael Bluejay  *  ICQ #3749849

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:25:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Jordan Wightman <tuo2@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: ben's citezenship

Hey all,
Just wondering if someone could clear up a rumor that
i heard about ben applying for Australian citzenship??
Thanks
Jordan




 
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:51:16 -0800
From: Alan Brockman <brockmaa@elmail.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: Re: what do BFF do at concerts?

No, they don't drop their pants at concerts!  They just don't wear any
to begin with.  Hmmm.  Anyway, one of the things that is about
guaranteed to happen at a BFF concert is that Ben will make alot of
faces at the audience, and abuse his piano.  Possibly banging on the
piano with his feet, a stool, and possibly dancing on his piano.
Alan

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:59:26 -0800
From: Alan Brockman <brockmaa@elmail.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: BFF should be prescribed for depression.

I agree with all the stuff Burton said about fans ripping on each
other.  Bad bad stuff.  That's not the point of his which I agree with
most, though.  A lot of BFF songs are great for curing a case of the
blues.  Try taking a good dose of Underground, Uncle Walter, One angry
dwarf, or Song for the dumped.  Also Tom and mary.  These are just a
few.  Do you think doctors would actually prescribe this?  And, if so,
could they get any insurance coverage to pay for the cd's?  That would
be novel if you didn't own all of them!
Alan

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:26:49 +1000
From: "Grover" <grover@powerup.com.au>
Subject: Re: bf5 a capella

<< I saw the After Dark a capella concert here at Trinity College last
night, and the visiting group, the Williams E-flats, did an a capella
version of "Steven's Last Night In Town!" I was amazed. I'm in an a capella
group
myself, and I had always dreamed of doing some BF5, but I never thought it
could be done. "Steven's" actually worked. Blew my mind! They basically
simplified the piano part and had lots of percussion and bass, and made
klezmatic-y noises. Amazing.>>

Uh... the definition of a capella is 'without accompaniment'.. so you've
left me very confused.... lots of percussion & bass?????? without
accompaniment???? something's not right here...

Erin

"I do the best imitation of myself"

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:37:21 -0600
From: Becky Williams <curlw2@panther2.pen.eiu.edu>
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #887

>What are the lyrics to Eddie Walker about? It sounds like a guy who's
>suffered a traumatic death, and is in some sort of "Waiting Room" before
>reaching Heaven where he's putting his life into perspective. Any takers?
>
Interesting notion.  I kinda thought it was a funeral eulogy type thing,
which is somewhat similar, I s'pose.

>Subject: About Eddie Walker...
>
>At the Warfield show, Ben introduced with "This next song is about visiting a
>guy in a halfway house."  Just thought I'd let y'all know :)
>
Speaking from experience (no, I haven't lived in a halfway house, I work in
one), that explanation makes a helluva lot of sense too.  Hrrmmm...

That article about the mother and son and the Brick thing was unbelievably
cool.  Which reminds me....perhaps it has something to do with the fact
that I live just to the right of the bowels of rural Illinois, but Brick
isn't terribly overplayed on the radio stations around here.  I still get
excited whenever I hear it while driving in my car.  

Another interesting tidbit.....When Naked Baby Photos came out, I'm sure
you all remember the hoopla about how it was too early in the boys' career
for a compilation album like that.  Well, I heard on MTV news today that
Hanson is doing something similar....an album which will include original
versions of some of their previously-released songs, such as 'Mmmbop.'  If
the press doesn't rip that one to shreds, I might have to stop believing in
God (which wouldn't be too much of a stretch from my current religious
status, but you get the idea).

My tuppence...mis dos pesetas...or something

Becky

p.s. - Anybody heard of a band called Harvester?  

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