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Issue #926 - April 5, 1998
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horde festival
FAQ
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 19:28:24 EST
From: luckyday6@juno.com (Jason A Masi)
Subject: horde festival
i was wondering if ben folds five is going to ben on the horde festival
this year like they were last year. if you have any info on this please
e-mail me
thanks
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 19:28:24 EST
From: luckyday6@juno.com (Jason A Masi)
Subject: FAQ
i found this on the net enjoy
Ben Folds Five Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) v3.6 (03/24/98)
Table of Contents
0. Legal Disclaimer
1. General
1.1 Who is in the band
1.2 Origin of name
1.3 Side-projects and other involvement
1.4 Recording and touring equipment
2. Albums/songs
2.1 Short discography
2.2 D-Tox Jackson Cannery 7"
2.3 Eponymous
2.4 Alice Childress
2.5 Boxing
2.6 Whatever and Ever Amen
2.7 WAEA song meanings
2.8 Brick
2.9 Weird background noises
2.10 Kate
2.11 Naked Baby Photos
2.12 Covers and unreleased songs
3. Live performances
3.1 What to expect
3.2 Tour-mates
3.3 Recording and photographs
4. Merchandise/media
4.1 Songbooks and sheet music
4.2 T-shirts
4.3 Videos and TV appearances
4.4 Bootlegs and trading
5. Internet resources
5.1 Official contacts
5.2 The Magical Armchair
5.3 Newsgroups
5.4 Web sites and other information
6. Conclusion
6.1 Submissions
6.2 Newest version
6.3 Acknowledgements
6.4 Disclaimer
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0. -Legal Disclaimer-
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1. -General-
1.1 Who is in the band
Ben Folds: piano, lead vocals
Robert Sledge: bass, backing vocals
Darren Jessee: drums, backing vocals
1.2 Origin of name
According to Ben, Ben Folds Five received it's name (despite the fact
that
the band only consists of 3 members) because it "sounds better than Ben
Folds Three."
1.3 Side-projects and other involvement
Ben: Began in a band called Majosha, which later evolved into Pots &
Pans.
Gillmer Derge sums up the whole Majosha/P&P controversy:
- ---
Around early 1988 Majosha formed and played their first gig at Duke
University's Battle of the Bands. They won. At that time, Majosha was
Ben
on bass, Millard Powers on guitar, some guy named Dave on drums and a
fourth guy (Rob?) who was never heard from again. For the purposes of
historical completeness, it should be mentioned that at that time,
Majosha
was spelled with an accent over the o. At some point that was dropped,
mostly because people were too stupid to
realize that the accent didn't mean it was Muh-joe'-sha (it's
Muh-jah'-sha).
They played bars and frat parties for a while and eventually put out a
self-produced EP sold at a few local stores called "Party Night: Five
Songs
About Jesus." There were 4 songs, and none were about Jesus. I think
the
4 songs were: Get That Bug (Outta Your System), Kalamazoo,
Where's Bohemia and Cool Whip. I'm not so sure about Where's Bohemia.
Gradually their popularity grew and they played larger and farther flung
gigs. Some time in 1989, they recorded "Shut Up and Listen to Majosha."
That's about the time Dave got the boot and was replaced with Chris
(Hound). They also borrowed Evan Olsen from Chuck Folds' band, the DT's
at about the same time. Various tracks on Shut Up feature Dave, Chris or
Ben on drums and/or Evan, Ben or Millard doing vocals. Shut Up contains,
among others, the 4 songs from Party Night (remixed and/or re-recorded),
Emaline and Video.
At about the same time they did some sort of dance mix of Get That Bug
that
was released somehow in Japan. As a promotional CD? At some point,
Hound
got sacked as well, and was replaced by Eddie Walker, who I think was
also
in the DT's with Chuck and Evan (all 3 of whom eventually became Bus Stop
with Snuzz). In early 1990 Majosha broke up, and Ben formed Pots and
Pans
with Snuzz and some other guy. Ben played drums. They disappeared soon
after.
- ---
Ben's name also appears on the band Barry Black's debut album, along with
Darren's, playing either piano or drums on 9 out of 14 of the tracks.
Barry Black's music is a serene, jazzy-style; mostly instrumental. Ben
also plays drums on a few tracks on Fleming and John's debut album,
"Delusions of Grandeur.". He makes a cameo appearance in the video for
"I'm not afraid" as a drummer atop a huge cake. His name also appears
in
various places on CDs by his brother Chuck's band, Bus Stop. As a side
project, Ben has reportedly been working with producer Caleb Southern
(who
produced their first two albums) on an instrumental album under the name
Fear of Pop.
Robert: Used to be in a band called Toxic Popsicle. Their album is still
available from D-Tox Records. Robert is also featured on the Gladhand's
most recent album, "La Di Da," providing bass and backing vocals for a
few
tracks.
Darren: Besides the aforementioned Barry Black appearance, Darren was in
a
band called Armageddon, and another called In Limbo, based out of
Greenville, NC. It was a decidedly pop band, in which Darren came on in
1989 to replace another drummer who "didn't work out". They released a
CD
entitled "What?".
1.4 Recording and touring equipment
Information courteousy of Musician Magazine:
Ben plays a Baldwin 5'5" baby grand piano through vintage Helpinstill and
Barcus-Berry pickups into a Marshall stack. He does his own mix onstage
with a Mackie CR1202. Robert played a Hamer Explorer bass on the first
(eponymous) album, and a new Fender Jazz bass with an old sixties bridge
for Whatever and Ever Amen. At home, he has an Epiphone Les Paul bass, a
Maison P-Bass copy that he bought in Japan, and an 1965 Carl Hoffner
upright bass. He uses Emo strings (medium light gauge) and Dunlop
picks.
The bass is pumped through an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff distortion pedal,
through a Trace Elliot amp into two stacks of four 12s with an additional
15 inside. Darren plays a minimalist set of 1967 Ludwig drums; 20" bass
drum, floor tom, mounted tom, snare. For heads he uses coated Remo
Ambassadors, and has assorted Zildjians for cymbals. He uses Vic Firth
5A
sticks with wood tips, and uses "whatever's around the house" for
brushes... wire, not plastic.
Whatever and Ever Amen was recorded through two Mackie 1604 consoles onto
two TASCAM DA-88s with an RC-848 remote locator. For mic preamps, they
used a Neve 1073 and 1272, and a Telefunken V72 and V76. Vocals were
recorded with a Neumann U48 for Ben, a Sony C-48 for Darren, and an AT
4033
for Robert. Ben's Steinway was miked with a Neuman U48, an AT 4033, and
a
Shure SM7. Drum mics for Darren included a Shure SM7 and five SM57s,
three
Sony C-48s, and two AKG 460s. Robert's accoustic bass was recorded
through
a C-ducer pickup and an AKG 460, and his Fender through an AM-7, an SM57,
and a Stewart active DI. For vocals, they carry three Shure SM58s and
plug
them into the club PA system.
2. -Albums/songs-
2.1 Short discography
Jackson Cannery 7" (D-Tox, 1994)
Eponymous (Caroline, 1995) - singles for Underground, Where's Summer B?
Whatever and Ever Amen (Sony/550, 1997) - singles for Battle of Who Could
Care Less, Kate, One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces, Brick
Naked Baby Photos (Caroline, 1998)
Several soundtracks and compilation CDs also have unique tracks. For
more
information, check out the complete discography at:
http://bff.home.ml.org/bff_disco.html
2.2 D-Tox Jackson Cannery 7"
Track listing:
1. Jackson Cannery
2. Eddie Walker, This is Your Life
Recorded by Caleb Southern on March 25th, 1994. Jackson Cannery is a
different recording than on the eponymous album, and Eddie Walker is a
different recording than found on Naked Baby Photos.
As of April 1996, this limited edition one-time pressing is out of stock.
D-Tox has no plans for a re-pressing.
2.3 Eponymous
Track listing:
1. Jackson Cannery
2. Philosophy
3. Julianne
4. Where's Summer B?
5. Alice Childress
6. Underground
7. Sports & Wine
8. Uncle Walter
9. Best Imitation of Myself
10. Video
11. The Last Polka
12. Boxing
Released on Caroline Records and produced by Caleb Southern.
The Japanese version of the album contains the bonus track, "Tom and
Mary,"
which can also be found on the UK "Where's Summer B?" single.
The tape copy varies from the CD copy in that on track 8 (Uncle Walter),
the line "well fuck you!" is omitted from the CD version.
The talking/band comments at the beginning/end of tracks are due to the
nature of the recording. The recording of the tracks were done in a
"live-show" style, sans-audience. Fewer re-takes pushed a faster release
date for the album.
2.4 Alice Childress
Despite rumors, the song "Alice Childress" is not referring to the
author/playwright Alice Childress, or the songwriter Alex Chilton. The
name was evoked from a mental patient in a hospital where Anna Goodman
(the
song's co-writer) worked. Alice supposedly threw mop water on Anna.
2.5 Boxing
Boxing is, indeed, written about a made-up conversation between Howard
Cosell and Muhammad Ali.
2.6 Whatever and Ever Amen
Track listing:
1. One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces
2. Fair
3. Brick
4. Song for the Dumped
5. Selfless, Cold and Composed
6. Kate
7. Smoke
8. Cigarette
9. Steven's Last Night in Town
10. Battle of Who Could Care Less
11. Missing the War
12. Evaporated
Released on Sony/Epic 550 Records and produced by Caleb Southern.
The Japanese version of the album contains the bonus track, "Song for the
Dumped", as sung by Ben in Japanese.
The talking/band comments at the beginning/end of tracks are there for
the
same reason as on the first (eponymous) album. However, these comments
have mysteriously vanished from all newer pressings of the CD.
2.7 WAEA song meanings
The following are explanations of the songs by Ben himself, taken from
the
Song/550 web site:
One Angry Dwarf and 200 Solemn Faces: "This is basically a portrait of a
guy that has to succeed so he can tell off everyone who used to pick on
him. It's a revenge anthem."
Fair: "It's a 'dig-me-and-all-my-pain' type of song. Definitely for the
self-destructive romantic person. It came from a newspaper article
concerning a domestic dispute which wound up in a death."
Brick: "It's really self-explanatory."
Song for the Dumped: "Darren, our drummer, just got dumped and scratched
out some angry lyrics and gave them to me. It was a joke, but it was
coming from a real place. I put the music to it in minutes. It's a
satire
on the obtuse male anger of being dumped, but still caring about the girl
who dumped you."
Selfless, Cold and Composed: "It's kind of about your average
middle-class
white guy? The kind of guy that can't express his emotions and has a
hard
time caring about others. He's the antidote to the guy in 'Dumped.'"
Kate: "Really, it's a song that's just cute and adoring. I felt it was
time for a song like that from someone. From our generation. It's a
crush
song."
Smoke: "I co-wrote this song with someone else, so I couldn't want to
speak
for her, but what it means to me is that you can't escape from your
memories on your past."
Cigarette: "It's a weird vibe song."
Steven's Last Night in Town: "A guy came to visit us in North Carolina
and
he hung out for a while, but then he wouldn't leave. We must have
thrown
five or six going-away parties for him. So I wrote him this song and
gave
it to him."
Battle of Who Could Care Less: "This is like the notion that the more you
care about something, your cat or whatever, the less they care about you.
It's the same way in the world of rock n' roll a lot - I wanted to get
that
across."
Missing the War: "This is a song left over from the first album. It's
really the sister song to 'Last Polka' on the first album."
Evaporated: "It's about loss."
2.8 Brick
It's been argued to the point of exhaustion, and people still seem to
disagree on this one. The bottom line is (and yes, Ben has said it
himself), it's about a trip to the abortion clinic.
Of course, Ben's joke of "this is a song about taking your dog to the
vet"
is an amusing idea to throw around, as well...
2.9 Weird background noises
If you listen carefully, you can hear a phone ring at approx. 2:54 in
Steven's Last Night in Town. Coincidence? Actually, according to Ben,
yes. It was a friend calling from Minnesota, but it came at such a
perfect
timing, they decided to leave it in. You can hear Robert laugh slightly
after it rings, as well.
...and if you turn up the volume loud enough on Cigarette, you can hear
crickets chirping away in the background! As to whether or not they are
chirping to the tune of the National Anthem depends upon what you've been
inhaling...
2.10 Kate
Who is Kate?
This question has a couple of different answers. Kate Rosen (whose
father, Frank Rosen, directed the Warner Brothers classic "Watership
Down")
was married to Ben in December of 1996. They have since separated. The
song however, according to Ben, doesn't really have much at all to do
with
her. The name is the same, but it wasn't written for her.
And for the question of "is that really Kate [Rosen] on the [UK single]
cover?" -- the answer is no. The picture is of a secretary in the UK
office of Sony Music who was working on a temporary assignment from an
agency. They needed a model for the cover and she happened to be in the
right place at the right time. Ben said he doesn't remember her name.
So what is this "Bhagavad Gita" thing mentioned in Kate? To quote Adam
DeLisse, from the Magical Armchair:
- ---
The Bhagavad Gita, once and for all, is an ancient Indian text in which
Krishna, an avatar of Vishnu, takes earthly form to teach Arjuna the
Archer
his duties as a warrior, and he ends up having to kill all of his evil
cousins to save his wife and brothers. It pertains to the Hindu faith
and
was written to teach moral lessons on performing the duties of your
societal class without looking at the consequences.
- ---
If you are interested, more information on The Bhagavad Gita can be found
at:
http://www.prabhupada.com/~btg/gita/welcome.html
2.11 Naked Baby Photos
Track listing:
1. Eddie Walker
2. Jackson Cannery (demo)
3. Emaline (cut)
4. Alice Childress (KCRW)
5. Dick Holster
6. Tom & Mary (cut)
7. For Those of Y'all Who Wear Fannie Packs
8. Bad Idea (demo)
9. Underground (live)
10. The Ultimate Sacrifice (live)
11. Satan Is My Master (live)
12. Julianne (live)
13. Song for the Dumped (live)
14. Philosophy (live)
15. Twin Falls (live)
16. Boxing (live)
Released on Caroline Records and (mostly) produced by Caleb Southern.
Naked Baby Photos is a collection of early demos, b-sides, rarities, and
live recordings. The versions of Eddie Walker and Jackson Cannery found
here vary from any other releases (including the D-Tox 7"). Emaline and
Tom & Mary also vary from their live counterparts found on UK singles
(Emaline even features Ben on acoustic guitar!).
For Those of Y'all Who Wear Fannie Packs, Bad Idea (demo), Underground
(live), and Satan Is My Master (live) can all be found on various UK
singles.
Twin Falls is a live cover of a beautiful song, originally written and
performed by Built to Spill on their album "There's Nothing Wrong With
Love".
2.12 Covers and unreleased songs
The band is notorious for doing on-the-spot situational songs; recorded
examples of these include Satan Is My Master and For Those of Y'all Who
Wear Fannie Packs. Cover songs done in concert include Built to Spill's
"Twin Falls", The Buggles' "Video Killed the Radio Star" (which has since
been retired, so don't ask them to play it), Liz Phair's "Chopsticks",
Jimi
Hendrix's "Crosstown Traffic", Elvis Presley's "All Shook Up", and the
list
continues to grow...
3. -Live performances-
3.1 What to expect
Well, the band no longer drive themselves around in a yellow U-Haul;
they've since moved on to Crest toothpaste-colored tour buses. They do
generally still lug around the same piano that Ben has been using since
the
first tour, but there are certain (overseas comes to mind) occasions when
the need for a rented piano does arise.
The miniature keyboard-looking thing that Ben plays in Steven's Last
Night
in Town and Smoke actually has two names; depending on who you ask, it's
a
"melodica" or a "clavinet". Another (less commonly accepted) name for it
is a "hooter".
Concerts tend to be very high-energy, with Ben leaping at his piano,
throwing his stool javelin-style at the piano, lots of jumping around,
and
general, well... fun!
3.2 Tour-mates
Ben Folds Five have toured along with Neil Young, Jewel, Counting Crows,
Gin Blossoms, September 67, Lollapalooza second-stage, HORDE, Robbie
Fulks,
and Komeda to name a few.
3.3 Recording and photographs
Are soundboard plug-in recordings allowed? What about hand-held
bootlegged
recordings? Cameras?
Soundboard plug-ins are not allowed. Discreet hand-held boots are
alright
by the band; Ben has mentioned that it can be distracting to be playing
and
see thirty microphones being held in the air. The band had previously
insisted that venues let fans tape, but they no longer argue with the
venue
when it comes to taping, do to the fact that they have too many other
things to worry about before a show. If the venue doesn't allow taping,
there's not much of a chance that the band will try to do anything about
it. Cameras all depend on the venue rules; photo passes are no longer
allowed due to too many bad photographs taken at venues appearing in
print. Photos are available through Girlie Action on request from news
organizations. Video taping is not permitted.
4. -Merchandise/media-
4.1 Songbooks and sheet music
A limited-edition Japanese songbook containing transcripts from all of
the
songs on the first (eponymous) album was available for order at one time
off of the Sony/Epic 550 official web page. Because this was limited
edition, it sold out quickly and is no longer available. No official
plans
from Sony/Epic 550 have been made to begin publishing re-prints of the
songbook. A songbook for Whatever and Ever Amen is, however, supposedly
in
the works.
4.2 T-shirts
The navy blue "Cool in School" t-shirt is no longer available.
Other shirts which ARE available are the "Middle C" ringer-T, another
black
ringer-T with "BFF WAEA" in blue on the front, and the three hand-drawn
instruments on red on the back, a baby-T version of the black ringer-T,
the
"Farewell Tour 1981" Doobie Brothers look-alike long-sleeved, the
burgandy
"Kiss my ass" (yellow writing), and a few unliscensed t-shirts (there are
too many to mention them all).
4.3 Videos and TV appearances
Videos have been made for Underground, Uncle Walter, Battle of Who Could
Care Less, One Angry Dwarf, and Brick; all of which have premiered on
MTV's
120 Minutes (which the band has also hosted a few times). The band has
performed live on Late Night with Conan O'Brien twice, been featured on
ABC's "In Concert" and PBS's "Sessions as West 54th", and have performed
on
the Jenny McCarthy Show, Late Nite with David Letterman, the Tonight Show
with Jay Leno, Saturday Night Live, and the Keenan Ivory Wayans show. A
video for Kate was recorded in Japan in Ben's hotel room before a show.
It
will probably never see the light of day on MTV in the states.
The band is used constantly for MTV background/intro music, and Ben
lended
his voice for an episode of "Space Ghost: Coast to Coast".
UK coverage included an appearance on the BBC show "Later... with Jules
Holland" in which they only played one song, Philosophy. The video for
Battle of Who Could Care Less has appeared on the Chart Show (ITV), Top
of
the Pops 2 (BBC2), and the O Zone (BBC2). They were also interviewed on
the O Zone.
Australian TV appearances include Recovery (Underground, One Angry Dwarf,
and an interview), Ben hosted for award of 'best jazz release' on ARIAS
(Australian record industry awards), Rage (hosting and choosing video
clips), the Today Show (a short interview concerning the meaning of One
Angry Dwarf), Ground Zero (a radio interview), and the infamous Midday
appearance in which they were kicked off and the show's producer chided
Ben
for his stool-throwing.
Japanese coverage includes the sitcom "Long Vacation", which is a
Japanese
soap opera akin to "90210" or "Dawson's Creek". Here's a short summary
from Sandy Teich:
- ---
The characters, for one reason or another, are always trying to score
tickets to a BFF concert. Many plot twists hinge on attending a BFF
concert; people are stood up, new liasons are made, betrayals are
committed, etc. -- all in a very sedate and cheery Japanese manner, of
course. Needless to say, they play BFF in the background constantly.
- ---
4.4 Bootlegs and tape trading
The Ben Folds Five trading station can be found at
http://members.aol.com/qualitease/bfftrade.html
and contains links to people who'd love to trade material, as well as an
index of all known bootlegs in existance.
5. -Internet resources-
5.1 Official contacts
The OFFICIAL Sony/Epic 550 Ben Folds Five web page can be found at:
http://www.bffweb.com
This page contains information on ordering merchandise such as T-shirts,
and there is a place to sign up to be placed on the band's mailing list
(in
which you will receive information via e-mail and through the U. S.
Mail).
The band also has an America Online e-mail address, and can be reached at
bffmail@aol.com.
5.2 The Magical Armchair
The Magical Armchair is an Internet listserv mailing list. It is where
the
bulk of the information in this FAQ was found, and offers an in-depth
look
at the band through the eyes of it's fans.
To subscribe to the Magical Armchair, send an e-mail message from the
account you would like subscribed to:
armchair-request@maillist.il.fontys.nl
The Subject: field can be left blank. In the message body, put the
word:
subscribe <e-mail address>
You will receive a confirmation message and further instructions. To
receive more information on the Magical Armchair without subscribing,
send
an e-mail message to:
majordomo@maillist.il.ft.hse.nl
The Subject: field may be left blank. In the message body, put:
info armchair
Majordomo will send you a description of the mailing list and information
on how to subscribe. If you have further questions, Mark Piper maintains
a
page on "Sitting Comfortably: A guide to the Magical Armchair". This is
available at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5430/listguide.html
5.3 Newsgroups
The Usenet newsgroup alt.music.ben-folds-five is being carried on more
servers every day, and can be a useful and informative forum to discuss
the
band. If your news provider does not carry this group, it can be read
via
DejaNews (http://www.dejanews.com).
5.4 Web sites and other information
Most significant Ben Folds Five web sites are on the Ben Folds Five
webring. A list (probably the most complete) of web sites can be found
at:
http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=benfolds5;list
6. -Conclusion-
6.1 Submissions
Do you have a question that hasn't been answered? Do you have anything
to
add? Let me know! Send e-mail to Scott at:
sschneid@gdinet.com
6.2 Newest version
The newest, most up-to-date version of the Ben Folds Five FAQ can ALWAYS
be
found at:
http://bff.home.ml.org/bff_info.html
6.3 Acknowledgements
This work could not have been made possible without the generous
contributions (information and otherwise) from the following people:
Frank
Maynard, Mark Piper, Kathryn Yu, Alex Torrance, Gillmer Derge, K. V.
Sutton, Adam DeLisse, Frank Davis, Erik Lyons, Scott Klass, Scott Hess,
Hannah Kuhlmann, Robert Doerschuk, Sandy Teich, Julie Hurst, Eric Agnew.
6.4 Disclaimer
Any additions, corrections, suggestions, or comments are greatly
welcomed.
I'm not always great at getting back to people through e-mail, but I do
read every message that I get. If you have anything to offer, drop me a
note at sschneid@gdinet.com.
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